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RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 427 Cobra - 03-13-2010

At least you guys can get screen caps. This is a little more technologically advanced than I am right now. Undecided


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - bwayne64 - 03-13-2010

(03-13-2010, 09:43 AM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: Great I thought that might work but thought "nar thats just too easy!". I'll give it a go. just taught me another trick boys. i'll probabl;y go nuts doing screen grabs of everything!!!!

Jase,
Just make sure you use media player, not media center. I wasn't able to get the print screen to work in media center. I just get a blank screen. I guess it has something to do with the way media center displays. Cheers,

Joe



RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 03-13-2010

Okly dokly. can't wait to finish work & give it a go!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - treker2557 - 03-17-2010

I can't wait to see the build up!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 07-28-2010

Ok Im back on this inbetween some battlestar down time. Its been a while so thought I better check the lights I have already installed still work Confused. Luckilly they still do Big Grin. Next fase is to get the engine lights installed & secure the engines to the hull. Loke Doug I want to get this baby buttoned up. The cockpit canopy needs some adjustment to fit flush. Unfortunately theres a couple if bits that hit each other not allowing a flush fit. Nothing the Dremel won't fox in a matter seconds. It will be great to start getting some parts on this baby after so long.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - darkimmitator - 07-28-2010

Jase that is cool dude !!!! I LIKE It !!!!!!!!!! ALOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 79 Daytona - 07-29-2010

Looking GOOD!!!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 07-29-2010

Jase,
That's looking great. I can't remember what was said way back about the transformer. Maybe Phil remembers. I only remember needing 12 volts to work with the halogen lights. I'll take a picture of my transformer label and post that up. My concern for mine is that it only 10watts and I'll be over that with the halogens and LEDs combined. I'm going to use 10 LEDs up front and I'm not sure how much juice they'll suck down all together. My guess is that the light will just dim a bit and not damage any of the LEDs. Anyone know what happens in this case?

Glad to see you back at it on the shuttle. The galactia is going to take years - give it a little break.....LOL


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 07-29-2010

Yes the Battlestar will take a whileit Dougy & we've made a good start on it. Phil should be finished his way before mine leaves the dock. I believe the lights will just dim with what you say for yours. I haven't been able to get my engine lights to light up fully or as I you guys have. Im bringing it in to the technician tomorrow to give me a hand. I looked at Phils Shuttle build last night. It looks fantastic & really should have been finished. Ay Phil!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - Wombat - 07-29-2010

It's not that good and it probably would be if not for another small build!! LOL

OK,just mention my thought on the transformer in Dougs thread there mate.The cockpit lights look good,been a while since i played around with it all,but you guy's are bringing back some memories again of what i got done earlier.Yeah had the same problem with the lid fit and the parts touching on the inside.Both were easy to fix,you wont have a problem there.Well,enjoy it mate,i think mine will be the last one outa the dock,but it will be outa there someday!


[split] - JAWS - 07-30-2010

Small update. Worked on the lil bugger this afternoon. Really wanted to get the engines on & a couple of pieces. So before securing the engines I had to try & get the pieces that sit on it at the rar lined up for the height to be worked out. I went off the Black & White photos to try & get it like he original. Theres a few small differences in that & the other reference so used the old skool pics as best as possible. I also removed so stuff from the lid so it sits on pretty flush. Might have to dip it in some hot water to get a small bend to back into it so its just right. So heres a couple of pics of the small progress.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 07-31-2010

Got my parts sorted & grouped. Pick up a power pack this week & hook all the lighting up. I can then close her up & start detailing.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 427 Cobra - 07-31-2010

That's really looking good, Jase! I was going to suggest the sandpaper around the pipe to sand the part semicircular, but I see you already know that trick. Smile

~ Cobra Chris



RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-01-2010

Looking good Jase. Are you doing mounting points other than the bottom?


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-01-2010

Thanks Cris. The part isn't actually rounded on the studio model but was something I thought to do just a bit. Doug Im going to drill in the other mount holes sometime today. Just wanted to get those engines on make sure the spacing was alright. I was going to sand em down so they were flush at the points but there are parts over the to so didn't bother. Im basically just all laid out now. I'll add the mount holes & work on the cockpit until Ive got my powere adaptor & everything is closed up.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-01-2010

So just a little more done today. Ive used 'Milliputti' to putty up the seam between the cockpit base & the hull. Maybe not neseccary but Im one of those people that if theres windows & lights, Im gonna look in. When you look in you can see the join so I wanted to fade that out. Ive puttied up the whole seam & will then sand it when dry. Once the primers on you shouldn't be able to see anything Big Grin The boys at work tell me Im 'fussy'. I agree & tell them Im 'excessive compolsive' Wink Ive also got the Cockpit deck & middle section primered up. The primers only a little darker than the resin but it is done. The original & replicas were very 'sloppilly' painted. I want to give my cockpit just a little more atention for those that are goingto look in. Im not so concerned about duplicating the studio model in that area. im also hangin out to paint something....Its been Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long Wink


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - Wombat - 08-01-2010

Looking good Jase!

You are back into this one again and seem ta be making some good progress on it at that.Good to see mine is about the only dormant one now,yourself and Doug are both doing fine job's with yours there.It's a good side project while ya await them bit's for your other build,get as much done as ya can,while ya can!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-02-2010

Looks great, Jase. I had to putty up the seam at the top rear of the cockpit as well. The joint on mine isn't quite flush and required a bit of putty. I want to primer that joint before installing my lighting just so I don't have to mask off all of the LEDS..

Excessive compulsive is right on, Mate. I think we all have a touch of that going on right now !!!

I have to get into the shop now and see if my putty is dry. Hopefully some good updates from me tonight.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-05-2010

Ok I got the engine lights hooked up for a test before securing in place. Im two minded about using the bulbs now Idea They give off quite a bit of heat & only left them on for a minute or two. I want to be able to leave them on for a while at least. I want all my models to be able tto be left on for some time to enjoy. I dream of a room full of models all lit up in the dark or dimmed light while Im watching my movies or haveing a drink at the bar(yet to be builtWink)


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-05-2010

Jase - if that's the case I wouldn't go with the halogens. I think they would cause the thin engine bells to warp really quick if left on for more than a few minutes. maybe some super bright LEDs?
I like the halogens for accuracy's sake but have to live with keeping them off most of the time.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-05-2010

Yeah I know. I'd like to keep them for accuracy but they just can't be left on.... Thats a bummer really.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 79 Daytona - 08-05-2010

Outstanding work!!! She is really coming together.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 427 Cobra - 08-06-2010

(08-05-2010, 01:45 PM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: Ok I got the engine lights hooked up for a test before securing in place. Im two minded about using the bulbs now Idea They give off quite a bit of heat & only left them on for a minute or two. I want to be able to leave them on for a while at least. I want all my models to be able tto be left on for some time to enjoy. I dream of a room full of models all lit up in the dark or dimmed light while Im watching my movies or haveing a drink at the bar(yet to be builtWink)
That's one of the reasons why I want to use LEDs, so it'll last a lot longer, and I can have it lit up during parties, or for Christmas.

~ Cobra Chris



RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-06-2010

I agree but Im still at two minds about it.....


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-06-2010

(08-05-2010, 01:45 PM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: Ok I got the engine lights hooked up for a test before securing in place. Im two minded about using the bulbs now Idea They give off quite a bit of heat & only left them on for a minute or two. I want to be able to leave them on for a while at least. I want all my models to be able tto be left on for some time to enjoy. I dream of a room full of models all lit up in the dark or dimmed light while Im watching my movies or haveing a drink at the bar(yet to be builtWink)

Jase,

Did you use a flash on the photo? Your lights don't seem bright enough. Using 12V power supply?


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - Wombat - 08-06-2010

Damn,you are right there Doug,they should be super bright from our trial run's.
Hmm,thats strange.

As for the heat issue,unfortunately these will put off some heat.If you wanna be able to leave on for long periods of time these are not going to work for you without them taking there toll on the build over time.The only real soloution is to have them engine bells made from something that will not distort from heat and preferably a low conductor of heat.The bells are just so thin and long periods of running i believe will effect the casted ones in our kit's without question.
It's something you'll have to decide on really.
A,do you want the globes to look like the studio models globes and B,i don't think you'll be able to achieve the look these halogens put out using LED's.It'll just come down to what you want,thats all that it has to be and should be!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 427 Cobra - 08-06-2010

You can get the same brightness with super bright LEDs, but you'd have to modify the reflectors a little to concentrate the light rays together. You might even be able to get bulbs that are a lower wattage, so that you can burn longer without warping the resin castings.

~ Cobra Chris



RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-07-2010

Nope no flash. It might be because I used a 12volt 2Amp charger rather than the 2.5Amp. There weren't any 2.5's left & just wanted to make sure it was working. I will get a 2.5Amp power pack soon. Im still undecided but will probably go with the bulbs.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - Wombat - 08-07-2010

Well thats strange.
Jase,2A should be plenty mate.Doug was only using 1A for his testing and they were burning bright using that transformer.Those globes are 12v globes aren't they?It's almost like they are 18v or something similar for example and 12v isn't enough to power em.
I'm lost on why they are not as bright as Doug's and mine but i don't think it's your transformer if it's 12v 2A.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-07-2010

I'll hook them up without the LED's & see if that makes a difference. I used connectors so might have lost some juice going between lights. It might just be that Im using a Nikon camera that deals with light a little better than your cameras?


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-07-2010

The shadow line of the shuttle under the model really looks like a flash went off. Maybe try photographing again.
Could be the power supply is not working properly? I got some pics of mine last night with the cockpit lights installed but didn't have time to post. Jase has the same bulbs and they are super bright with 12V.

Just checked your old posts and in post 79 the lights look right. I think it was just the photo in that last one. I know it's hard to get the lighting to look right using digital cameras. I think you're in good shape if they look more like in post 79.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-07-2010

Oh their brighter than post 79. The picture in post 79 they were only hooked up to a 6volt battery...


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - Wombat - 08-07-2010

(08-07-2010, 09:56 AM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: I'll hook them up without the LED's & see if that makes a difference. I used connectors so might have lost some juice going between lights. It might just be that Im using a Nikon camera that deals with light a little better than your cameras?


You know that's all it probably is.As Doug mentioned it can be hard capturing in a picture how things actually look.I'm sure they are working fine and the same as ours,theres no reason they wouldn't be.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-07-2010

I was concerned seems my adaptor was only a 2A & not the 2.5A you 's had. Ahh screw it. Doug went through too much trouble to get themn for me. I'll use em. I need to get some copper to make the right plugs. If Im gonna doit I Im gonna do it properly damnit!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - Wombat - 08-07-2010

Thats more like it!

It'll most definitely give it that studio used look to it going that route!
The 2A transformer should be fine mate,i wouldn't worry about changing that.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-07-2010

Yeah Big Grin


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-09-2010

Ok so does this look right? There is also a picture of what I'd really like to have. Just got this pic & clearly shows the engine lights. Cool


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 427 Cobra - 08-09-2010

The bottom photo is of the studio model, right? It doesn't have the lights on to compare, but yours looks correct from what I've seen so far.

~ Cobra Chris



RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - LastBattlestar - 08-09-2010

I wouldn't worry about using LEDs guys, if anything, they give a more even spread of light than bulbs. I think even to the naked eye, the light flare might look better? I haven't seen Phil's shuttle lit up yet with the bulbs, but LEDs really make your eyes hurt. They photograph nicely too: here's my B wing engines without reflectors or the current blue filters.Smile

5mm super-bright LEDs

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Mike


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-10-2010

I think that's looking good Jase.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-10-2010

I like the look of the reflectors. Gives it a real tuff rocket look even without the lights on.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-10-2010

Moving along Ive mad some mounts for the lighting. They fit in nice & snu. I will secure them as minimally as possible in the event they need replaceing at some stage.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-10-2010

Those look great, Jase. Removable is a smart move and I wish I had done that. I hope these sockets are good quality. Mine are never coming out either way :-0


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-10-2010

Its getting crazy in here. Going from bench to the other. Im starting to feel like a mad scientist Rolleyes Ok so Ive drilled out the other mount points. Portside, Starboard & Rear. The wiring in the front is sort of blocking the front but I'd never use it or probably any of the others anyway. Honestly once this baby's done she's in a glass case with a swithch & thats that Wink Well had to do another light test just to make sure Im on the right track. Gotto sort out the copper tube & rod for the 'accurate' switches & I can go back to detailing. Finally Dodgy Hey I might even finish my first SS model this year Confused

Oh the old school bulbs definately give it the right feel.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - Wombat - 08-10-2010

That was some real good thinking what you came up with for mounting them sockets.Real bloody good thinking mate!!
Wow,it's all looking great man,you really making some fine progress up there.
Not just on this but the other small project ya got going also,don't know how ya do it.

But ya do,so keep it coming!


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-11-2010

Ok Im enjoying this build. I had an old picture that was not to be published of the engines & now have one that is already posted in the ref section of the engines that shows reflected halogen lamps. i love the look & have been looking for something similar. I have found something close but has 2 problems. 1 they are AC power & the LED's are DC. 2 they are a bit small or maybe not? The thing is they look damn kool even when off with their reflected domes. Oh sorry, 3 things wrong. these things heat up to 200 degrees c'..... but hey they look bloody kool. Im pretty Rolleyes set on this look.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - LastBattlestar - 08-11-2010

I think you can get LED versions of those bulbs, Jase, but they probably need 240V to run. I don't think your bulbs will get to 200 degrees if you're only running them at 12 volts?

Mike


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - 427 Cobra - 08-12-2010

I just finished tearing one of those apart a week ago! I had to use a Dremel Moto-tool, and a cut off wheel to remove the bulb, which was imbedded into the base. This was nearly impossible to get out without breaking the reflector, as this is all glass! I got this from my uncle. He burned out the bulb after only having the track lighting bar this came out of for a few days. This has an irredescent blue colour on the inside, and a magenta colour on the outside, but in the right light this has an almost rainbow effect. I'm saving this for an orginal scratch build project. Check it out.

~ Cobra Chris

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RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - JAWS - 08-12-2010

Hey I tried that & broke the stupid thing. These are 12volt 35watt bulbs. Maybe there is a lower wattage. The diamater looks a little small compared to the Saturn V part but looks right in the photo. Maybe I can find a torch reflector thatwill do the job? The main problem is theyre AC & my LED's are DC. I could run two separate switches. I could have got LED ones Mike but theyre not the same lighting affect. this thing burned my eyes hardcore. You can't tell in th photo how bright the sucker was.


RE: Studio Scale Battlestar Galactica Shuttle - dbhs - 08-12-2010

I'm pretty sure that's just tin foil pasted into the engine bells. You can see the loose, jagged edge of it in that overall shot.