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Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-02-2014
Time I rectified not posting my builds here.. Just toooo lazy
This time my Cloud Car build.
Always liked the lines of the model and was a favourite of mine as a kid.
I like to get as much of the kinks out as i can modelling the design first.
Also always paying attention trying not to make it to sterile or symmetric if the original model wasn't. Basically trying to add some free form to it.
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Once it's as close as i can manage to get it it's time to generate a tool path from the model. Here the model is layed out ready for tool path to be generated.
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As the original was vac formed I would need to make a plug. This is the first time I have used HDF instead of renshape tooling board in an attempt to cut costs. HDF worked out fine in the end for a limited run as long as you use a heat resistant sealer. Here is the HDF being laminated.
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Next step bug your mate to give you the run of his router for the day and watch the plugs emerge, much like watching paint dry but a bit more exciting
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Next step...Vac forming and the results.
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-02-2014
Onto the Armature!
Wood or a cast armature just wouldn't do!
Again back to modelling in 3D.
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Getting back to what i mentioned before in trying to emulate the hand finished nature of the work. Notice that each corner blend is different and quite a bit different from front to back
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Same basic process as the HDF plugs, plan how to attack the part, tooling, holding, g-code.
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Thats it for now, Hopefully more will be done today.
Rob
RE: Cloud Car 101 - JAWS - 08-02-2014
Oh hell man your rockn it!
Can I be your new best friend as I have some things you may be able to assist me with.
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-02-2014
As long as it has something to do with either: the AT-AT, A-Wing or Slave One
RE: Cloud Car 101 - Wombat - 08-03-2014
Great start there and really cool seeing all the steps you are taking to bring this one to life so to speak.
How thick is that styrene you are using for the vac formed pieces? Does it stretch the styrene making it thinner as it's pulled down making the finished parts thinner than the original thickness? If so i take it you need to allow for that in your buck sizing to start with.
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-03-2014
The styrene started at 1.5mm, you can count on around roughly 30% thinning depending on the shape. I think I showed the surface offset I added to the model on the RPF thread to account for it. But there's to many variables to account for so getting close is about as good as you can hope for. For the A-wing I'm going to try a female plug, That guarantees the pull is the exact same shape but the stretch zones are reversed. Will try it and see how it goes.
Rob
RE: Cloud Car 101 - Stefan Hacker - 08-04-2014
Wow most impressive work! I guess it will be stable enough to drop it on the floor without any damage with all those frames.
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-04-2014
The ILM model is actually really flimsy, The armature is rock solid but the fuselage is thin, I went with 1.5mm and I think they went even less. And theres only a few screw mounts to it and the body. It won't fall apart but you can tell form resent photos of the prop the two fuselage half's have popped up in places and its a bit wonky. The top half of the fuselage is also in two pieces. So will see how it goes together soon enough
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-08-2014
Well the armature's are done and if i do say so myself are fairly close to the originals, Warts and all.
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-11-2014
Armature finished and assembled
Minus the acrylic of course.
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - JAWS - 08-17-2014
Damn that's impressive work....
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-27-2014
Thanks Jason,
The Acrylic's cut and fitted to the armature. Just need to machine some acrylic rod and attach the bottom fuselage.
The engines half way done, should be another week and I'll have that attached.
Rob
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - Ralphee - 08-29-2014
Looks awesome, just a bummer it was done in two parts (pulls/armature), be good to see it built though!
Lee
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 08-29-2014
Don't get what ya mean Lee, How would you do it in one part?
Rob
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 09-10-2014
Little more progress on the engine.
This is the engine more or less done minus the vac formed cover, the two semi circles on the rear and the mount point covers.
Have to start looking into the possibility of using custom made neon for the business end!
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 09-15-2014
Small update today.....
Spent the afternoon milling the plugs for engine cover.
Need to order some sheets then will vac form them on my mates custom vac former.
He built a really cool former, I'll post shots when were done.
Not much left to do on the engine but put it together
Rob
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - roboterkampf - 09-15-2014
Man, that is some seriously nice methodical work.
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dbhs - 09-15-2014
That armature is very cool. Love seeing the insides getting as much attention as the outsides.
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 09-17-2014
(09-15-2014, 11:16 AM)dbhs Wrote: That armature is very cool. Love seeing the insides getting as much attention as the outsides.
For the cloud car the armature is partly visible as the wing and engine mount anyway so you have to at least build half of it, so why not go all the way
I like the idea of replicating as much as possible, even if you can't see it. And doing it this way also helps explain why things are the way they are on the outside.
Rob
RE: Cloud Car 101 - JAWS - 09-18-2014
Freaking Awsome work man!
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 01-08-2015
Bit more work on the engine area.
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - Ralphee - 01-09-2015
Brilliant, some really tricky work there, and finally a real wing section for an SS Cloud Car!
lee
RE: Cloud Car 101 - JAWS - 01-09-2015
Totally sick work!
RE: Cloud Car 101 - 3d-builder - 01-11-2015
I didnt know the original model had a metal engine cover
and it was skinned with plastic pretty cool....looks super
slick Rob.
RE: Cloud Car 101 - dsp5500 - 01-11-2015
Only aluminium on the armature, the rest is Nylon and styrene.
Roughed in Pilot test fit. Need's more work as does the canopy. Missed a few things I've just noticed resonantly.
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RE: Cloud Car 101 - roboterkampf - 01-12-2015
He looks ready to take on a Falcon! Rad!!
RE: Cloud Car 101 - Guy Cowen - 01-12-2015
Awesome work mate, its a big thing to get something done to this level and even bigger to do it with a drug problem lol
RE: Cloud Car 101 - Ralphee - 01-12-2015
Looks great, always loved the pilots in the Cloud Car!
Lee