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DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 09-21-2010
I've had this project on the bench now for a few months and it is going slowly due to the many additional items I'm adding on to to these models. Currently I'm scratchbuilding the hanger deck to fit inside the engineering hull. I will also be adding the botany deck, the crews main rec deck, the officers lounge. I'm going to be recasting a few of the pieces, to assist with the lighting effects, in a clear resin such as the main deflector dish the bridge and lower saucer domes and possible the grills for the warp nacells. To see progress pics check out my website.
NemVia
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - dbhs - 09-21-2010
It will be great following this build. I haven't seen a deboers going together from the beginning.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - JAWS - 09-22-2010
Your builds are widely recognised as brilliant. Will be following this for sure. Theres a lot going into these. Thanks for posting
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 10-08-2010
In my update this week, I've begun working on the cargo bay section of the hanger deck. I had to take a lot of interior measurement od the DB Engineering section to make it as large as possible and also make sure it is to scale and that it will actualy fit into the model when I'm finished building it. Then I had to take a lot of measurements of the PLE hanger to scale it up to the DBE size. Everything is being built as a master so that I can make some casting molds. If you look at all of the detail that I'm adding, you'll see why I'm going to be making casting. To put the details on just the upper and lower cargo bay stalls on just one wall took me a little over 3 hours. It's a bear to do but worth the effort. By next update I will have the details on the upper part of the cargo bay added in and all of the strucural wall braces or "ribs" as I'm calling them will be added and then I can start on the ceiling and begin moving to the lower hanger deck starting in the middle section of the hanger. The New Pics star on slide 38 - 47. Hope you enjoy the updates and I'll see you when I have new pics.
~NemVia~
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 10-17-2010
I've added a few test fitting pics of the hanger bay pieces fitted into the Engineering hull. Because each of the DeBoers models has variances on the insides of the hull I have to be very carefull with the test fitting. I found out that the middle wall section that I've built are going to have to be trimmed so they can fit into the hull space. The upper part of my scratch build part hits the inner wall of the hull and causes it tonot allow the pieces to fit properly. Sometimes you just cant rely on mathamatics to enlarge a piece for the models. These scratch build models need to be built with great care as the DeBoers model and all of the pieces must be very customized to fit in there properly. But... with a little TLC and some tweaking it will all work out. I should have a complete hanger model to show you next week or so and then start casting 3 of them for the other Enterprise models. See you next update.
~NemVia~
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - 427 Cobra - 10-17-2010
I'm not a Trekkie, but that hangar bay is cool! I can't wait to see this one finished. The last one I saw like this was on hobby talk, but we all called it the "discoprise" - because it looked ridiculous with all its' incorrect/excessive lights, and inaccurate paint details (it was over done). It was too bad the guy who built it was so deluded about his building skills - it would've been nice to see it finished properly by a true artisan who would have at least taken the time to do it justice by giving it the correct paint detailing, especially when you take the rarity of this kit into consideration.
That guy was banned from there, and one other place for being a common nuisance. He would blab about himself, and post pictures of himself with his wife with his models, and post links to his website, with an incorrect instruction manual that he wrote about his "wonderful modeling skills as a true professional" - which is why we all laughed at him, not so much for the work he'd done, as that shows a lack of respect, and good taste, but we were more, or less making fun of him for the way he had displayed his models, and for his overconfidence in his abilities. Some of the models he built were great, but this one in particular was too much detail in all the wrong places, which detracted from the enjoyability of the craft. One thing's for sure - he loved his lights, and mirrors!
From what I understand, this model is over two feet long - is yours the same length? Forgive my ignorance, I don't know much more about the DeBoers kits other than what I've heard from other people on hobby talk. It isn't like you can go out, and get one again - they're no longer made.
~ Cobra Chris
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 10-19-2010
Hey! Thanks for the positive notations! I do remember that thread. It was quite bizarre! I remeber saying to myself thats the USS Blingerprise. Quite a different concept. I'm surprised there were no spinners on the nacells.
Anyway the DeBeors model will measure 42" in length when it's finished. I haven't had one completely assembled long enough to measure, but they are quite large and so much easier to work on as far as the painting goes. There's a lot of drilling and sanding to do in this kit.
After the hanger deck I will be working on the Botany section, the officers lounge and the crew rec-deck. Still have lots more to come so keep checking the sight. If you want to be notified of the updates just register. It's free!
Mark @ NemVia
http://www.Nemvia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - JAWS - 10-21-2010
This is nice. A big model needs lots of deatil & your definately on that.
Hanger Bay Update.... - NemVia - 10-24-2010
6 new pics added to my site. More work done to the Hanger bay. I'm working on the Turbo Lift tubes and the ceiling details right now. Soon I'll be ready to cast this beastie. It is a very tight squeeze into the main hull of the ship. I've had to trim some of the pieces back just to get it inside the model. The effort is paying off though. I Should be finished with this hanger by the next week or so if all goes well. See you next update.
Mark
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 11-19-2010
My update for this month is a little late, but I've been working on my master molds for the hanger and am going to be starting the casting process. I have a pic of the test casting for the Starboard side of the hanger deck as well as the rear wall. Both test pieces came out very well and I will start the final casting this coming week. I had a few issues with resin I was working with and had to adjust a few things to get this part of it set up right. I also have some of the lighting effects ready to be installed after the pieces are ready and primed and then painted their final colors. I'm trying to match as closely as possible what was seen in TMP, but I'm going to be adding a few of my own touches for the realism effect. I've also started working on the Botany deck. Since the secondary hull comes pre-assembled, it's a little bit harder to make measurements except by trial and error for the proper fitting of the deck inside the model. I've also cast some parts for the ceilings for the opened hatches on the saucer section. I'm also mapping out the officers lounge to begin construction of a master to be cast later on. The PL officers lounge does not match entirley what was seen in ST:TMP. So, I will have a few of my own touches to put in this piece as well. Also on the list of things to do is the creation of the crew rec-deck. I've seen several versions of other modelers re-decks for their PLE models and will be using some of their ideas for these models.
In preparation for things to come, I've purchased some of the lighting tubes and EL lamps and about 250 LEDs that I will be using to light the models, also trees and shrubs, rocks and other items for the botany deck, various resins and silicon rubber for casting multiple scratchbuilt parts.
Here's what the totals for these models will be that need to be built. There will be 4 officer's lounges, 3 for the DBE's and one for the DBReliant. 4 rec-decks, respectively for these models. 3 Botany decks, and 3 Hangers. 2 of the DBE's will have the opened hatches detailing. I'm recasting the main deflector dish and housing with a clear resin rather than the milky white or transparent blue versions.
So, even though you may not see a lot of new pics these last few weeks, there has still been a lot of prep-work being done to beautify these models. As I complete them, I will add more pics. Keep checking the site. You won't be disappointed.
~Mark~
http://www.NemVia.com
Flight Deck Lighting and Officer's Lounge Update - NemVia - 12-04-2010
In this update I've begun the building of the Flight deck pieces for the Hanger. I've started to build and assemble the Chase lighting effect or landing lights. I realize that this type of lighting was not seen in TMP, but my client asked me to add anything to the models that would enhance it's realism. I've already opaqued 2 of the decks and tested this lighting effect to see how it would look, and I think it works very nicely. In my next updat I will include a small video to show you the effects. Right now I have to finish opaqueing the 3rd flight deck, then paint it it's appropriate color, then add the landing strip details. After that I'll post the effect.
In other news, I've started on the Officer's Lounge piece. This piece is not going to look like the PLE officers lounge. I've been studying some stills from ST:TMP and building my lounge according to the movie. On the PL piece the viev screens are huge and out of scale with the lounge. I've made mine a lot closer to what is seen in the movie. Many of the walls in the movie are actually paneled walls in what appears to be a very light tan color. When you see DR McCoy in the shot, behind him are some more chairs, tables and a couch, and behind the couch are windows. They appear dark but I believe. at least in my version, that it is because no one is in the lower lounge area. You will be able to see through these windows on my version and will also be able to see the right side view screen some-what, whereas the wall on the PLE version almost completely blocks out that screen, being a solid wall.
By my next update I should be able to show you a painted Hanger Deck, possibly one of the Officers lounges finished, I'll have the molds done for these pieces as well as the Botony deck and I will be starting on the the Crew Rec-Deck. I've really been looking forward to building this piece because it is very intricate and is on of my favorite set pieces in the movie. I only wish that that had shown a lot more of it on the screen including a better view of the Warp Nacell outside the rec-deck windows that was barely seen in the movie.
See you next update!
~Mark~
http://www.NemVia.com
In this update I've begun the building of the Flight deck pieces for the Hanger. I've started to build and assemble the Chase lighting effect or landing lights. I realize that this type of lighting was not seen in TMP, but my client asked me to add anything to the models that would enhance it's realism. I've already opaqued 2 of the decks and tested this lighting effect to see how it would look, and I think it works very nicely. In my next updat I will include a small video to show you the effects. Right now I have to finish opaqueing the 3rd flight deck, then paint it it's appropriate color, then add the landing strip details. After that I'll post the effect.
In other news, I've started on the Officer's Lounge piece. This piece is not going to look like the PLE officers lounge. I've been studying some stills from ST:TMP and building my lounge according to the movie. On the PL piece the viev screens are huge and out of scale with the lounge. I've made mine a lot closer to what is seen in the movie. Many of the walls in the movie are actually paneled walls in what appears to be a very light tan color. When you see DR McCoy in the shot, behind him are some more chairs, tables and a couch, and behind the couch are windows. They appear dark but I believe. at least in my version, that it is because no one is in the lower lounge area. You will be able to see through these windows on my version and will also be able to see the right side view screen some-what, whereas the wall on the PLE version almost completely blocks out that screen, being a solid wall.
By my next update I should be able to show you a painted Hanger Deck, possibly one of the Officers lounges finished, I'll have the molds done for these pieces as well as the Botony deck and I will be starting on the the Crew Rec-Deck. I've really been looking forward to building this piece because it is very intricate and is on of my favorite set pieces in the movie. I only wish that that had shown a lot more of it on the screen including a better view of the Warp Nacell outside the rec-deck windows that was barely seen in the movie.
See you next update!
~Mark~
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 01-13-2011
As promised I have a lot of updates for The DeBoers Projects. This time there are 28 new pics of a lot of progress that has been made. Photos 69 to 96 are all new and they begin on page 2 of the DeBoers Project photo album. I have finished casting all of the pieces for the Hanger deck and they are now opaqued and painted their appropriate colors. I've added the turbo lift tubes and scratch built the railings for the catwalks surrounding the cargo bay area. I now I promised a video of the lighting effects for the landing deck, But I ran into a fitting problem. Because the DeBoers models are all individually cast they all have variances in the thickness of the hull so I have to shave a lot of these problem areas down and it's taking some extra time to get this done. But for sure I will have something for you the next updat which won't be too long from now.
I've also continued work on the Botany section. I've added some walls and other details and am now begining the landscaping of 3 of these bays. One for each of the Enterprise models. This part is actually kind of fun. I'm beginning to see why model railroading is a big hit.
I've also made the Crew rec deck. This is a very complicated piece because there are so many different shapes to it and a whole lot of furnature to be put into it as well. I'm starting to get the hang of the resin casting and I now have 3 complete piece castings for the entire rec deck, 3 castings of the botany deck and 4 castings of the officers lounge. All of these pieces will of course need to be painted and detailed and that will be in a future update. I will also work on that video of the lighting effects for the hanger. It's all starting to move now. The tough part is making the masters for the molding process. After the molds are made it gets much easier to make these pieces.
Let me know what you think of the progress.
~Mark~
http://www.NemVia.com
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - dbhs - 01-13-2011
Mark - what a great update. I went through the whole progress as a slide show to see the entire thing and it's amazing the detail you're putting into this. Are you building multiple ships? Is this the reason for the resin copies of the interiors? Or are you going to make these available for sale? Either way very cool.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 01-13-2011
(01-13-2011, 03:04 PM)dbhs Wrote: Mark - what a great update. I went through the whole progress as a slide show to see the entire thing and it's amazing the detail you're putting into this. Are you building multiple ships? Is this the reason for the resin copies of the interiors? Or are you going to make these available for sale? Either way very cool.
Hi! And thanks for checkin the model's progress. There are actually 4 ships total that I'm building for 2 different clients. 3 of them are Enterprises and 1 is a Reliant. To of the Enterprise models will have Drydocks built for them and the ships will be mounted as I did for the PLE kit in a previous build. The other Enterprise will have a base mounting along with the Reliant and will be displayed in a Diorama as per request of one of my clients. The reason I'm casting some of the interiors is because I know I will be working on a few more of these ships in the future and I won't have to rebuild most of them later on. I would not be against casting these pieces for those who are interested in using them for their own DeBoers scale models. There are a lot more pieces I will be casting later on in this build that haven't been shown as of yet. Thanks again.
Mark
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - JAWS - 01-14-2011
Damn Mark that is some superb work you do mate. You & Scratchy are out there when it comes to attention to detail. I can't believe your building 4 large models with this amount of detail at the same time. Thanks for the update.
Botany Deck update - NemVia - 01-21-2011
(01-14-2011, 04:55 PM)omes72 Wrote: Damn Mark that is some superb work you do mate. You & Scratchy are out there when it comes to attention to detail. I can't believe your building 4 large models with this amount of detail at the same time. Thanks for the update.Thanks omes72. Detailing ads to the realism of the scale.! Scratchy's model is superb and done very well! I love all his detailing work. Sometimes it drives you nuts to do all of that work, but the finished product always proves it's worth in the end.
...as for me...
Hi I just finished up one of the botany deck pieces. I just have to do a little touch-up work and add a few benches. But for the most part this piece is just about complete. Let me know what you think.
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 01-22-2011
Okay, I forgot to post an overhead shot of the Botany deck so you can get an idea as to how similar it is to the PLE piece, only it's a lot larger. I also added some pics with this piece inside the hull of the ship. Not as clear as I would like, but I'll work that out later with the proper lighting.
Click on the pics to enlarge.
Mark.
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - dbhs - 01-22-2011
This looks great.
I have a dream of doing the new BSG Zephyr at 1:1000 and building out the inside of the space park like this. I need to win the lottery so I have time for everything I want to do. Life is too short.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 01-31-2011
Well, I finally was able to upload some test video of the landing light effects for the hanger deck. There are 4 total from a few different angles. Please not this is just the chase lights effect, the rest of the hanger lighting is not working in these clips. Let me know what you think.
Mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mz21PT0u8
http://www.NemVia.com
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 02-13-2011
Hi everyone,
I have several update pics in the photo Gallery. I've begun airbrushing the Rec-Deck, Officer's Lounge and a few other pieces. I'll be adding a few plants here and there inside these pieces, but more than likely they will not be viewable when they are placed inside the ships. But finally most of the interior work is getting finished up and I can begin working on the Outsides of the ships. Which I am looking forward to very much. I know there hasn't been too much news about the Reliant as of yet, but some of these pieces will be used in Reliant as well as Enterprise. I will be scratch-building a few corridors for a few of the other viewports but for the most part I am winding up on the interiors. The Reliant doesn't have the huge viewport windows to look into like Enterprise, so there isn't the need for as many interiors. I am putting the officer's lounge in Reliant because, believe it or not there are viewports on the back of the ship. On another Reliant build it was pointed out about the location of the officer's lounge. I went over all of the shots of Reliant in STII:TWOK and sure enough there was one pull-away shot through the ship's roll-bar where there were 4 light-gray windows in about the exact same position of the Enterprises only they were a lot smaller. So they are there and this is why I'm including the lounge in the Reliant model. There will be a few more pics of the interiors that I'm finishing up and then soon I can begin working on the ships hulls. See you next update.
Mark
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - JAWS - 02-13-2011
Mark that is so kooolll man!! Damn I love it. A friend recently said that the site was too much Battlestar & Star Wars related. Thanks for posting this as its extremely impressive work & might bring some of the other genre builders out of the wood work. Keep up the greaty work & the updates please.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 03-20-2011
(02-13-2011, 03:04 PM)omes72 Wrote: Mark that is so kooolll man!! Damn I love it. A friend recently said that the site was too much Battlestar & Star Wars related. Thanks for posting this as its extremely impressive work & might bring some of the other genre builders out of the wood work. Keep up the greaty work & the updates please.Thanks Omes72. I welcome any trekkor fan to participate. Here's my latest update.
Warp Engine Update for 03/19/11 Hi everyone.
I've finally started work on the Warp nacells of all 4 ships. This is the first project that I've done using Epoxy. At first I thought Ididn't care for it so much, but after seeing the results and getting used to the smell, I believe I'm hooked. There are a lot of things you can do with epoxy resin that you can't do with cement. For you seasoned modelers I'm sure you might feel the same way. In this update I've cut out a lot of the holes for the lighting effects, I've added the Warp effect grills and added the fins to the rear of all of the engines. I've been able to run the wiring necessary for 4 seperate lighting effects needed in each of the nacells. About 6 months ago I had purchased enough Micro Fluorescent tube lamps to light all 4 ships and now I'm finally able to add these items into the nacells and secure them into the models. At the end of the album I have an engine lighting test pic. I'm very happy with the test reults so far. In these models you will not be able to see any LEDs in the warp grills like you could with the PLE version I did. When All of the components are added into the nacells, I will be able to seal them up and begin the finall touches on the seams and cracks and dings that are in the hull by doing some extensive putty-work along with sanding and filing. After this I will be able to opaque the engines and start there final paint jobs. Talk with you next update.
Mark
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 05-06-2011
What a month this has been! A lot of problems encountered with these builds, but eventually they were smoothed out and fixed. I've added a couple of pics for the Enterprise this month. I have to tell you it's been a tough month though. First I had problems with an order of 3mm yellow LEDs that I needed for the thruster effects. They kept sending me the wrong size and the wrong color LED which was becoming a problem and putting me seriously behind on my updating. Next I had one of the lighting circuits go out on me and it was difficult to isolate the problem, but I managed to finally find out what was going wrong with it an repaired that with no problem. I also managed to break 2 of the fluorescent tubes that light the warp engines..... GAAAAAH! Now I'm in the process of epoxying the engine halves together which is no easy task because of the nature of the epoxy and it's curing time. At first I tried to epoxy the entire engine pieces together in one shot, but found this to be way too messy and cumbersome and it left a few gaps I didn't count on. So in order to avoid the mess I decided to epoxy only small sections at a time. First, I'm epoxying the fron't and rear of the nacell then clamping those together over night to ensure agood bond. Then with 2 exacto blades I apply the epoxy to the top seam only. I use one knife to hold the seam apart then apply the epoxy with the other knife, clamp it together and let it bond over night. I repeat the same with the bottom seam. This allows me to avoid a lot of mess by doing it a little at a time. The pictures I've added show that I've used an abundance of epoxy to make sure the seam is over-filled. This will minimize the need for a whole lot of putty later on. But at least now I have the Warp nacells assembled. I will begin smoothing these out and preparing them for opaquing and their final paint job.
I really should have gone over the assembly instructions a little slower. It does say very clearly that this is not a model to be rushed or assembled in one night. Not that I've been trying to go that route, but I would have thought maybe just that tiny iota molecule sized bit of "faster" progress would help just a wee bit. Sometimes you have to step back and tack a breather or two to collect your thoughts and strength to re-group and get back into it again.... which I have.... Feel much bettrer now that I've solved a few problems.
The real problem with these kits is there are no guide tabs to line up the pieces so you have to be very careful when assembling this type of kit. I've read in other forums about those who have built these models and have had the same reaction as to the dificulty level. Some of the pieces don't line up exactly so there is some improvising to be done. I'm not complaining... Just venting. I myself can't wait to see them finished that's why I keep plugging along. Any thoughts on this are welcome. I should be ready to start putty work and a lot of sanding by the next update, then I can start opaqueing and final painting on these warp nacell pieces. See you soon!
Mark.
http://www.NemVia.com
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - dbhs - 05-06-2011
I ran into a similar problem when I glued the 2 halves of my Colonial One back together. I used 20 minute epoxy and practiced my set up but still barely got them together before running out of time and having the epoxy making a mess. I found that masking off around the glue joint helps keep the glue that always oozes out where you don't expect it from ruining the adjacent surface. I did this on the BSG Shuttle and it really saved me big time. If those nacelles are flexible enough to do it in stages that's great.
It's looking great so far.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 06-12-2011
(05-06-2011, 04:46 PM)dbhs Wrote: I ran into a similar problem when I glued the 2 halves of my Colonial One back together. I used 20 minute epoxy and practiced my set up but still barely got them together before running out of time and having the epoxy making a mess. I found that masking off around the glue joint helps keep the glue that always oozes out where you don't expect it from ruining the adjacent surface. I did this on the BSG Shuttle and it really saved me big time. If those nacelles are flexible enough to do it in stages that's great.Yes, there is some flexiblity with the pieces. I have been using the 5 minute epoxy, so there is even less time. I've even used the taping method and that does work out very well. What I do for this technique is pry apart the seam with one exacto knife, just slightly, and then trowel the epoxy into the split, pull out the other knife and then clamp them together. I found alos that rather than mixing the epoxy on a piece of cardboard and/or plastic I use an old glass candle base to mix the epoxy on. This way I don't have to waste pieces of plastic or cardboard. When the stuff on the glass hardens, I just scrape it off with an exacto knife and start on the next mixture. You can pick up these candle bases or plates for just a few dollars at a Walmart or like store.
It's looking great so far.
Now for my update....
WARP NACELL UPDATE FOR - 06/11/11
It's been a crazy month for the Reliant and Enterprise. The Nacells are quite a job to get just right. The problem is with the seams on the top and bottom of the nacell. They do not join together in a nice straight and even seam unlike an injection molded kit. I've had to do a lot of sanding on almost all of the engine pieces. Remember that there are 8 engines total for 4 models, so it's a lot of work. I've only been able to opaque 3 of the engines so far and am still working on the final sanding for the other 5 engines. I do have 4 pics in the Enterprise Album, #'s 129-132 and 3 new pics in Reliant #'s 34-36.
As I've stated in my last updates, there is a problem with the grills on all of the models. The filming miniature has 5 lines of lighting effects on the warp grills whereas the DeBoers only has 4. The Polar Lights model has 5 grooves rather than 4. To me this is a huge mistake that would take a monumental amount of work to fix the problem so I'll just have to allow for the difference. Also, the pictures I have of the Warp grills show that the lighting effect only goes back so far on the engines and not all the way to the end of the grills. There is a little bit of difference in opinion as to which part of the grill actually lights up. I'm sticking with the deep grooves since it matches up with the movies stills I have. It's too bad this error is so obvious, at least to me. But what can I do. It will still look sharp when they are finished.
By my next update I should have the base colors started on the engines. See you then!
Mark.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 08-01-2011
Warp Nacell Update for 07/31/11
I Apologize for not posting anything for a while, but let me assure I have been extremely busy on these ships. As of now I am working on the most difficult part of building these models and that's the starting of the AZTEC Pattern for the Engines. In the DEBOERS ENTERPRISE update I've sprayed the basecoating of FLAT WHITE on all of the endines and pylons, then I began with the first of up to 5 different colors I will be using for the AZTEC patterns. I have also started on the basic "Lightning bolt pattern" for the support pylons as well as the masking off of the first color that will be needed for the complicated shading of the engines and so forth. It takes about 3 hours per engine just to start this pattern off. To date I've completed the masking of all of the Port Side engines on the Enterprise models. Now I will be doing the reverse pattern on all of the starboard engines. I had a tough time deciding on what exact pattern would be for the pylons because even though there are many great pics of the filming miniature's details around many different parts of the ship, there are very few clear ones of the support pylons. So I had to scour the movies again, finally finding a good or at least a half way decent shot while the Enterprise is in Drydock. (Thank gooness for ST:TMP) The shot is about 3-4 seconds long but it showed enough of what I needed to get started. There are 5 new pics in this album #'s 133-138.
Mark
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - dbhs - 08-02-2011
Insane and cool at the same time. Love it.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - Cylon-Knight - 08-24-2011
AMAZING WORK!
Love alllll the photos, thank you for sharing them.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 09-22-2011
(08-24-2011, 09:35 AM)Cylon-Knight Wrote: AMAZING WORK!Thanks! And no problem! There will be plenty more pics to come!
Love alllll the photos, thank you for sharing them.
Well, this month has sure been a productive one! I've spent the last 30 days or more doing nothing but masking and painting the Aztec patterns on the Warp Nacells and support pylons of the (3) Enterprise models. I've put 4 different colors on each of the engines so there were three different maskings that needed to be done. After all four colors were finished I had to removethe masks which takes about an hour and a half per side. There are 6 of these engines, so I will be doing this a little at a time over the next week or so. I will need to do some minor touch-ups to these engines, fix a few cracks and chips in the seams and paint, then I can finish all the flush vents, intakes, control thrusters and other parts that need detailing and paint. I will also be adding some small domes for the strobes on the top rears of the engines. Then I can add the decals that go on the back ends of the nacells. All around, the paint jobs are turnng out well. Please feel free to leave feedback and let me know what you think!
After the engines are finished I will begin work on the engineering hulls which I think will be a lot easier than the engines and there are only 3 that I need to finish rather than 6. See you next update!
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - Cylon-Knight - 09-28-2011
The Aztec is looking PERFECT. Can't wait to see more. The refit 1701 / 1701-A is my ALL TIME fav starship.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 10-22-2011
In this update, I've added 15 new pics to the Enterprise album. It took about 2 weeks to mask off all of the engines for the detailing work. I've added 3 new colors as you will see, plus I did touch-up work on the warp nacell grills. I think the pics turned put good. Next I'll have to paint the front nacell grills copper, the inside stripe on the pylons will have 2 more shades of gray added to finish off that detail. There is some putty work that needs to be done on the basses of the pylons then I will put a very thinned out off-white color over the Aztec pattern to tone it down just slightly. It will look sharp when it's finished. Then I can add the decals to the rear of the engines. I've made my home page so that you can access the DeBoers Enterprise project from the side bar on the left. The new pics are on page 3 pics 149-163. Let me know what you think!
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - Cylon-Knight - 10-30-2011
Great new photos!
So for the aztec - are there three shades of gray? For a total of 4 (including the base color of the ship)?
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 10-30-2011
(10-30-2011, 10:50 AM)Cylon-Knight Wrote: Great new photos!
So for the aztec - are there three shades of gray? For a total of 4 (including the base color of the ship)?
That is correct. There is a base coat of light gray, then 2 parts light gray and one part Flat white, then two parts flat white with 1 part light gray. then one part blue gray with one part flat white. It is subtle shades of gray, but enough to give it the right look without the Aztec being too pronounced.
Mark
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - Cylon-Knight - 10-31-2011
Thank you for the info Mark! That’s a recipe for success – simmer at warp 8 for 20 light years – DONE!
:-)
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - JAWS - 11-12-2011
Yep thats a nice color.
keep the posts coming.
I love these builds.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 11-13-2011
(11-12-2011, 12:11 PM)jase72 Wrote: Yep thats a nice color.
keep the posts coming.
I love these builds.
Thanks Everyone. Even I have to say it is a good choice of color.
Big update this month! I have added 16 new pics to the Enterprise album! A lot of energy and work have gone into these engines and I'm happy to say that other than a few pieces that will be added later on, the Engines are all basically done!
In the Enterprise update, I've had to spray the entire engines with a very light and thinned out coat of off white. This will tone down the Aztec colors just a little bit but will allow the sublte shapes of the Aztecing to show through. I've also painted up all of the misc. details such as the inside stripes that run up the support pylons. This took 3 different colors to make the stripe look perfect, Then I've added the decals which in this case are only 2 decals to the rear of the engines. The only thing I need to add to these now are the small domes for the warp crystals and the strobes on the rear ends of engines. So now I can finally put these in mothballs for a while and start working on the next part of this project, which I'm looking forward to, and that will be the "Engineering Hull". At least in this case there are only 3 pieces to work on, so the updates might be a little closer together.The new pics are on page 3 of the Enterprise album pics 164 - 179.
See you next update!!!!
Mark
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Last update for the year! - NemVia - 12-13-2011
Well, everyone! This has been a busy year for me. The projects are coming along nicely and I feel I'm gaining some momentem. Unfortunately because of my peak season which will be starting sometime this week, I'm afraid I won't have much time or energy or the will to do much on these projects for the next two weeks or so. However, I've been able to get a lot of things accomplished since the last update. Noteably:
In the Enterprise build: I've added 26 new pics starting on page 3 slide 180 thru page 4 slide 205. I've begun working on the engineering hull. Like the warp engines there is a ton of putty and sanding work that needs to be done and redone. The bottoms of the hulls are the worst parts. They have a little bit of a valley in them which makes it very difficult for a nice smooth and rounded finish. I've had to fill in the old mounting holes on the 2 shipd that will be mounted from the saucer section in the drydocks and the other ship needed a larger bore hole for the mounting rod that will be used for the Mutara Nebula diorama. I have also added some new nacell mounting holes for when the engines are finally attached to the hull. I'm also going to add the lighting effects that are seen on wither side of the travel pod docking ports. To do this I had to drill out the old hatch doors and have rebuilt my own doors so that I can re-cast them in clear resin to allow for the small but interesting lighting effect.
Recasting a LOT of parts. This model was not inteded for lighting that is for sure. That is why all of the port holes need to be drilled out. But also, there are other pieces that need to be redone. So far I've recast the torpedo launching tubes, the lighting housing for underneath the fantail, the strobe light covers or domes for the flashing light effects, the airlock piece which I built at the begining of this project and have now finally got around to casting it into a single piece. I only need two of these pieces, that's why it took so long to get to. And finally the largest piece I've had to cast: the main deflector dish and the dish housing. This too was originally to be done as two seperate pieces, but I didn't like the way the hole drilling was turning out and I do not want it to look like a drilled them out either. So I recast these two pieces into one clear resin piece. I will then follow a technique that was used while building the Spacedock in STIII:TSFS where the entire plexiglass model was first painted over and then all of the spots that were supposed to be windows or portholes where lightly scratched off to allow the interior lighting to come through. I tried this on a scrap piece and it works out beautifully. I will have pics of this later on.
I just have a few more small things to add onto the engineering hull by way of detailing and then I will be ready to begin the painting which I am looking forward to doing.
Well, that's it for this update. Please be safe everyone. I will see you in 2012!
Take care, Mark
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Updates For January 2012 - NemVia - 01-16-2012
As mentioned in my last update I have updated some of the features on my site to help make it easier for Members and Visitors to find my latest updates without having to search though too many photos. Starting this month, you will be able to go directly to the current updates by clicking on the UPDATES FOR JANUARY 2012 page on the left hand sidebar. I will probably leave 2 or 3 months worth on the homepage and then move them to the appropriate pages later on.
Also thanks to everyone who has visited my site. Last month My 100th member joined in. Don't be afraid to join up! More are always welcome!
Now for my first update this year, I've been doing some refining of the details on the secondary hull. I've added all of the re castings of the Travel Pod Doors and epoxied them in place, next the will be prepaired for opaqueing and painting. I've also started working on how to put the lenses on some of the lighting effects. In this case it will be the Lighting ouside the Hanger bay. My solution was to drill the holes out, then add clear resin into the cavities. Not a very easy process, but after the work is done it looks pretty sharp. I've taken a couple of pics to show what the lighting effects will turn out like in the secondary hull. The same goes true for the Thrusters. I've decided to cut out the wedges on the tops and bottoms of the saucers and re-insert them with clear epoxy resin pieces. Right now I'm still making the molds for these parts and I should have the first of them done in a few weeks. In the meantime, I've also been casting several clear and white resin shuttle craft that I will be using for the hangers and also the Drydock model for when I start on that project. So stay tuned. I will be opaquing the secondary hull in the up-coming weeks and then I can start on the Aztecing for the Secondary Hull.
See you next month.
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 02-04-2012
cool:
I have 16 new pics in the February update. I have spent a lot of the last month trying to smooth out the Engineering Hull. Ive been re-shaping a lot of the viewports and adding places for new lighting effects both to the Travel Pod Air-lock doors as well as the Hanger Deck. All of this is done in preparation for the Aztec patterns that will soon be added. To help protect some of the etched lines in the hull as welll as add some detailing I have begum masking out all of these lines and details. This process takes about 2-1/2 hrs per side. The pics in this months update show all of the detailed masking. I will then begin adding different shapes to different parts of the hull to begin some of the Aztec work.
Other updates this month include the spraying of the Main Deflector dish and housing piece which will also have some Aztecing put into it. Also I've sprayed the Bridge pieces in preparation for their detailing work. By the next update I hope to have at last 2 more color shades added to these pieces. See you in next months update.
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - Cylon-Knight - 02-05-2012
Love the update! Great work Mark. The Motion Picture 1701 / 1701-A is my ALL TIME FAV spaceship. You are building "THE BOMB" version of it. Can't wait to see more.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 03-07-2012
(02-05-2012, 02:51 PM)Cylon-Knight Wrote: Love the update! Great work Mark. The Motion Picture 1701 / 1701-A is my ALL TIME FAV spaceship. You are building "THE BOMB" version of it. Can't wait to see more.Yes this is definately one of my favorites as well.
Update for March 2012 - 17 new pics!
Greetings everyone! Well, it's now March. Time is flying by quickly! This past month I've been working on the masking for the 4 different shades of Aztec paneling for the entire Engineering Hull. So far I've been able to do the first 3 shades and 2 seperate masks. I was able to spray the 3rd shade on this morning. After the paint has set for 24 hrs I can begin the masking for the final shade on the hull and do some minor masking for the Strongback features as well as the housing for the main deflector dish and the dorsals front and back. On a few parts of the hull, some of the small masks have come off or have moved a bit due to the handling and from what I'm seeing the painting is turning out very well. Unfortunately we won't get to see what it all culminates to until the final colors have been added, the paneling is toned down and then the masking can all be removed. I've also begun some more masking for the main deflector dish piece (that is not connected to the engineering hull). The Deflector housing and stronback will be done in slightly darker colors, but they will not stand out too much. I'm really trying to shoot for the look in ST:TMP where everything is more subtle. From WOK onward there have been different and duller finishes added to the miniature for filming purposes. After the painting is all finished for the Engineering Hull I can finally add the Nacells to the hull and start working on some of the wiring and lighting. I feel real good about how things are looking so far and even I am looking forward to my own future updates. It's getting there my fellow modelers. Just hang in there! To view the pics go to my site below!
See you next update,
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 04-11-2012
This has been an extremely busy month. All of my work has centered on the Secondary Hull and the Strongback detailing. There are 4 different colors added to the Aztec pattern on the engineering section and then they were oversprayed with the final off-white color that will be the ships signature look. The Strong back was a little different though. I used about 6 shades on this part as well as the deflector dish housing. Although the final colors are not on these parts, the Secondary hull is now completely Aztec-ed. There are 26 new pics in the Updates For April page on my website. I mounted the engines on the hull as well as the saucer to get an idea of how everything will look together. Check out the pics and let me know what you think. I will be finishing up the Strong back as well as the front part of the Deflector dish for next month's update. I will start assembling the Hanger deck, the botany Deck and some of the wiring for the engines. I will also finally begin to work on the Saucer section. So stay tuned and I will see you next month!
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - Cylon-Knight - 04-16-2012
VERY NICE!
I was just watching 1701-A CGI stuff on YouTube last night... you can't beat a quality physical model though.
Can't wait to see the Saucer section start up! Thanks for sharing.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 05-04-2012
For the Enterprise update this month, I have been able to finish up most of the work on the strongback and the deflector dish detailing. I still need to scrape off some of the paint on the outside ring of the dish to allow for the lighting effects, but for the most part the painting is finished. I will now start decals on the engineering hull. There are only a few to worry about. I should have an update for this by next month. For this month I have started doing the prep - work for the saucer sections. The first thing I needed to do is to make sure all of the viewports are nice and even, then cut out all of the thruster pieces and replace them with clear re-cast pieces so the lighting effect will look half way decent. I will also be adding the bottom saucer domes. I've cut out all of the holes for the lighting effect and will replace them with some clear pieces. I will be adding the bridge pieces to all of the saucer top halves at this point as well as adding the warp crystal domes on the back end of the saucer. All of this is in preparation for the Aztec pattern to be added on the top and bottom halves of the saucers. The latest pics are now availible in the "Updates for May 2012" page.
See you next update!
Mark.
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Updates For June 2012 - NemVia - 06-02-2012
I've added 15 new pics for the Enterprise Update.
For the Enterprises it has been quite a month of work. The first tough part was to add the new re-cast thruster pieces to the tops and bottoms of the saucers. Some were exact fits while others needed a bit of sanding and puttying, but all this effort will produce a very nice lighting effect later on. I've had to cut out some wiring holes in the saucer section to allow the wiring to go from the saucer to the Dorsal. I've also had to remove a section of one of the framing braces to allow room for the crew rec-deck assembly for later on. I have also opened up the rear of the upper saucer to allow for both the epoxying of the warp crystal/impulse engine piece as well as the lighting effects for that area. I've made the hole large enough so I can epoxy these pieces into place well enough so they won't move at all. To epoexy them into place and take care of the putty work at the same time, I line the entire rim of the Warp crystal piece with the putty, then press it into place, then I immediatly epoxy the piece into place with 5 minute epoxy. When this is set I take an exacto blade and remove the excess putty from the outside. This alows for sanding to be kept to a minimum. Next I mask off the Warp crystal dome as well as the impulse engines so that I can opaque the entire hull top and bottom. I let the Flat black set for at least a day then spray the entire top and bottom with Light Neutral Gray. I've been finding it better to start with the darker colors first, then mask off the smallest details and work my way up to the lightest colors. By next month I should have most of the first masking done and hopefully the second one for most of the saucer pieces. Hope you enjoy this update and I'll see you all next month.!
Mark
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RE: DeBoers Enterprise - JAWS - 06-03-2012
What I sai before.
Your work is incredible.
You make this ships look big with your fine detail & paint.
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 08-01-2012
This months update is very picture heavy!
For the Enterprise update, unfortunately I was not able to get too much accomplished on the Aztec Painting because of spending so much time on Reliant. But it has been started and is going good as well. Although the Aztec pattern is different from Reliant I am still using the same painting technique. First I've sprayed the entire saucer sections, top and bottom Neutral Gray and now I'm in the process of masking of smaller areas of the hull to create the first color of the Aztec pattern. These maskings will then be removed after spraying the next color "Light Gray" and then lightly spraying over that to soften up the harshness of the Neutral Gray color. Then for the final Aztec Pattern I will overlap different parts of the first color with the masking and painting to give the hull the appearance of several different shades of color in the Aztec pattern. There are 5 new pics of this process in the August updates. As of this update I have two of the Enterprise upper saucers masked and ready for painting. By the next update I should have all of the base colors finished.
See you next update! Enjoy! And as always comments and New members are always welcome!
Mark
September Updates are now Posted. - NemVia - 09-01-2012
Hey everyone! There are 26 new pics for this month's update! Please check them out! Comments are always welcome.
It's been a very busy month for the Enterprsie models! I've now begun working on the Aztec patterns! And hooooweee! that is sure a lot of work.I've decided not to use any friskette to make the patterns because I've found that the widths of the grids vary slightly from one another. Some are wider and some are narrower. This can be very frustrating when using a friskette template. So in this case I measured the widest grid and use that for the basis of my pattern, then for the narrower grids I just make slight cuts and do some minor overlapping for the narrower grids. So all of the patterns for each individual grid are now matched up more perfectly with masking tape than they ever could be with a stencil or friskette. It takes about one hour to do one entire grid circle on each of the saucers. All of the upper saucers Aztec patterns are completed and I've got 4 rings of the grids done on the lower saucers. So, yeh, do the math... yes, about 30 hours to get what I did, done. But the pictures will speak for themselves. Everyhting is turning out very nice at this point.
I've also had to tweek a few things with the engineering hull and deflector housing. As I re-watched parts of ST:TPM and ST: TWOK I realized that something did not appear to be right and it turned out to be the Strongback and deflector dish housing. In ST:TMP when the Enterprise was in drydock, I was not seeing any of the strongback details that I painted on the ship that I was seeing in the movie. There was way too much definition to the colors that I had used and there is a slight sheen to the surface of the ship indicating she was basically "BRAND NEW". I began to rethink what I did and it turns out that I had been following pictures of the studio model details as the model was repainted for 1701 - "A". I became very distrought and realize this needed to be corrected befor I add decals. The solution was quite simple though, I took some light Neutral gray and thinned it out a lot. Then with a very light spray setting on my airbrush, I resprayed over the entire strongback with this color and guess what. It worked. You can still see the details but they have been toned down quite a bit. I will be spraying the Engineering hull as well as the other parts of the ship with gloss to give it just enough sheen to not only add the decals, but to give it the new hull look as well.
I should be able to have the rest of the masking done by the next update and hopefully all of the decals will be finished, then I can finally start putting these babies together and begin the lighting and wiring.
So, that's all for this update. I will see you again next update! Take care,
Mark
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - LastBattlestar - 09-01-2012
Pics, pics!
Mike
RE: DeBoers Enterprise - NemVia - 09-01-2012
(09-01-2012, 12:36 PM)LastBattlestar Wrote: Pics, pics!
Mike
Hi Mike, to see the best pics go to this site
http://www.NemVia.com
or try
http://www.Nemvia.com