BBTS-Cowboy

[LeeS]

I think you could be bang on there! The size is about the same.

[LeeS]

I've noticed that 2.5 sets of pieces from the Gepard are used, so I cast them up last weekend. I also cast the single piece used from the SRN4.
L

[Snake Plissken]

The 2 parts in red are INCANDESCENT & MERCURY VAPOR LIGHTS
and MISCELLANEOUS ROUNDS & RECTANGLES.
LF-316 and LMRR-15 http://plastruct.com/

[Snake Plissken]

(11-06-2013, 10:38 AM)ColinSMT Wrote: Taking a closer look, the edges of those disc look rounded over which based on 1979 maybe Plastruct handwheels/discs. This is a wh-36 for the wider one (1 1/8" dia.) Possibly with smaller discs as the spacer?

Have you looked at this kit?

[Joseph C. Brown]

It looks fascinating! I was only (vaguely) familiar with the "Aunt Jemimah" style of Sherman Mine Roller, and I sure had not heard of this version before.

Someone who either owns that kit, or, has a link to a detailed review of it on-line, would be needed for some pictures and/or measurements.

For my own build, I am for whatever works! It'd be awesome to have all the original model kit ID's.

[LeeS]

Picked up my 2nd Quad gun recently so I can start a build for this. Noticed something odd at the local Tamiya shop (That's Thai baht btw_...

[Joseph C. Brown]

(12-17-2013, 01:47 AM)LeeS Wrote: Picked up my 2nd Quad gun recently so I can start a build for this. Noticed something odd at the local Tamiya shop (That's Thai baht btw_...

I've been collecting kits as well; got a Gepard in yesterday, and another Leopold. The joy of part ID's continues... and, I discovered what makes up the end-caps for the Saturn V halves! L'eggs containers, dangit. Here's a pic of me fitting the (one!) vintage L'egg that I do own to the First Stage half.

[Wombat]

That look like your part and if it wasn't what was used it still looks like it'll work perfectly just the same. Nice find!!

[Joseph C. Brown]

In the continuing quest discover what might make up the engine pads, I am gambling on it being a Williams Brothers product, specifically, the Wright J-5 Whirlwind engine cylinder.

The William's Brothers aviation engines fit the correct time period, and were available in a multitude of scales. The R/C modeling crowd has used these products for decades to appropriately "period-dress" their models, so, while it's a gamble, it is not inconceivable...

The lower portion of the engine cylinder is an amazingly close match... but figuring out just which scale of the J-5 is the question! I'm really hoping that it is the 1/5th scale 'cause I just ordered up four of them.

[Joseph C. Brown]

Until someone else provides a better match within available parts from the 1979 time frame, I am calling this identified: 1/5 scale Wright J-5 Whirlwind from the William's Brothers aviation engine kit.  Your mileage may vary.

   

   

   

[cireskul]

Nice work Joe, I am really looking forward to seeing your completed project. You should consider casting it, I would buy a copy, and you could get something more for all your efforts.

[Joseph C. Brown]

(02-08-2014, 01:19 AM)cireskul Wrote: Nice work Joe, I am really looking forward to seeing your completed project. You should consider casting it, I would buy a copy, and you could get something more for all your efforts.

Thanks for the good thoughts!  Casting this would be... a challenge.  And not cheap.  It's early days still, I'm still trying to ID parts and obtain them.  We'll have to see what the parts pile looks like be saying  yay or nay.

And, another part found!  From the Tamiya 20mm Flak38 Sd.Ah.52, sprue F, part #19:

   

[LeeS]

Nice one!
I just spotted the tank from the Lunar Lander is used behind the cockpit. Just can just make it out here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lee_stringe...5150719043

[Joseph C. Brown]

(02-10-2014, 04:13 PM)LeeS Wrote: Nice one!
I just spotted the tank from the Lunar Lander is used behind the cockpit.  Just can just make it out here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lee_stringe...5150719043

Very cool!  

That made me go back and look at what other captures I have from that angle.  And, it would appear that there are 2 tanks: the one you spotted behind the cockpit, and also on the aft lower section:

   

[Joseph C. Brown]

And a slightly better angle on the picture with the Tamiya 20mm Flak38 part:

   

[LeeS]

Yeh I think there's either a whole or half tank top and bottom behind the cockpit.
I also think the small tank on the other side of the cockpit is from the Linberg station, just cutdown.
At this rate we should have all the parts in about 5-6 years :-)

[Joseph C. Brown]

(02-12-2014, 02:12 AM)LeeS Wrote: <...At this rate we should have all the parts in about 5-6 years :-)

Ordinarily I'd agree.  However, I got word today that an old friend passed away on Monday the 10th -- and he was my age, give or take a year.  Viral pneumonia, or, the flu.  

It was just an abrupt reminder to not waste time... because none of us know just how much we have left.  He'd be the first one to tell me '"just build the darn ship and zoom it around the room!'"

So, I got all of the Williams Brothers cylinders are trimmed and ready for glue:

   

[JAWS]

Sorry to hear about your friend.
Totally agree on his statement.

Nice start.
Looking forward to seeing this come to life.

[Joseph C. Brown]

(02-13-2014, 02:06 PM)JAWS Wrote: Sorry to hear about your friend.
Totally agree on his statement.

Nice start.
Looking forward to seeing this come to life.

Thank you!

I'm pulling together some of Bryan's older art and pics to do a mini-Facebook public gallery; some of the gang here probably saw his work, if you are players of the old Traveller role-playing game.

[Joseph C. Brown]

More (tentative!) parts ID's...

For the cylindrical tanks on the landing legs, the Monogram 1/48 scale 500lb bomb is nearly a match in size and shape.  They were certainly available in the late 1970's!  The various B-17 versions had them, and well as the 1/48 B-29 kit.  

I am not saying "Eureka! This is the part!" because I don't know that.  But it's the closest kit part that I have seen so far.
   


Also, the Space Shuttle with a Shuttle Bay interior became available by 1978 from Revell; possibly Monogram and Airfix.  The exterior of the Akir Weather Satellite certainly has one of these parts!
   

[Joseph C. Brown]

Going over the starboard side of the front cab, the odd two-dial box was annoying me.  I mean, I cannot hold a candle to some of the awesome kit id-ing folks on the board, but I *knew* I'd seen that part somewhere...

  Lee_BluRay Starboard mid 1.png (Size: 58.1 KB / Downloads: 24)


And while going through my RTF Prison Barge references, there it was!  Thanks to Wombat's kit scan!

   

[Snake Plissken]

What Kit is it from ??

[darkimmitator]

Looks like tamia 1:35 88mm gun flak

[Joseph C. Brown]

Aurora / Esci 1/76 Elefant :

   

[Wombat]

Looks like another part/kit you've discovered. Good job!

[Joseph C. Brown]

And a bit of progress: the leg engine cylinder tanks are at 90% completed,
   

and the four engines are closer to done!
   

[Joseph C. Brown]

And a big step: attaching the angle-cut leg tubes to the finned engines. 
   

   


   


And then spot-checking the accuracy with a greeblie strut matched to the picture:

   

[Guy Cowen]

Cant wait to see more of this, been great reading through and seeing it take shape.

[JAWS]

Progress!
Sweet Joseph.
Looking good.

[Jake88]

This is looking really nice. Outstanding work so far! i remember my dad taking me to this movie when it came out in the late 70s. good memories. Your doing great.

[Joseph C. Brown]

Thanks gang! The comments are appreciated!

There has been progress this past week, but mainly on gathering up greeblies / nurnies and seeing what needs to be cast for multiple copies. I mean, I'm a huge fan of the ship, but I am *not* buying 9 Leopolds just for part B-71!!!! Almost as bad for the Gepard Flakpanzer - one for the hauler, and two more for the cargo area...

[steve36uk]

That quad body is one of the unsung hero's of studio scale=2 for Cowboy's ship,2 for the Geminii Frieghter,2 for the Crane in the Basestar hangar, and I nearly binned mine.....Looking great so far:-)

[ColinSMT]

I agree, looking great! It's nice to see the subject start to come alive.

[LeeS]

Hey Joe,
I've already cast some of the pieces needed and I'm about to cast some Gepard pieces. Let me know what pieces there are multiples of.

L

[Joseph C. Brown]

(04-28-2014, 12:37 AM)LeeS Wrote: Hey Joe,
I've already cast some of the pieces needed and I'm about to cast some Gepard pieces. Let me know what pieces there are multiples of.

L

The Gepard, 2 sets -- the starboard forward section of the freight platform, and the 1 Gepard part on the starboard cab section.

Our old friend, Leopold part B-71... I've got a count of 9 of them at the moment. If there are more, I plan to be prepared!

L'Eggs lower dome section, 2 needed, cut carefully in half. These will cap off the Saturn V first stage cylinders.

I plan to make copies of some of the Matilda parts that are cylinders, as those look like they will be darn handy for ship builds. Then I can glue them onto the aft of the freight platform.

Re-reading this before posting, I can clearly see that I've hit the 'whining' stage of the build. That is a natural milestone for me!

[LeeS]

Hey,
No worries!
Going to get fresh rubber and resin next week so I can get you sorted.
I've already molded the LunarLander and can spare 1 Leggs container

L

[Joseph C. Brown]

(05-01-2014, 04:20 AM)LeeS Wrote: Hey,
No worries!
Going to get fresh rubber and resin next week so I can get you sorted.
I've already molded the LunarLander and can spare 1 Leggs container

L

Ermmm... thanks! However, I already have all the parts and have been doing molding and casting these past 2 weeks or so. Classic case of me not exactly grasping what you had written!

A factor that I have been dealing with is: use the genuine styrene parts, or use copies that I have made for the model?

When possible, I normally use the styrene. The Lunar Lander is an example: I got a case of these from Starship Modeler for a great price (near cost!) so I don't need resin copies of it. The Leopold, the Morser Karl, and the 88mm Flak kits are being selectively dissected for the parts that I need multiples of, and the Airfix Hovercraft as well.

It's not even so much that I am making copies of those parts for building Cowboy's ship, but for building several others from this film as well. The Akir Weather Satellite, Cayman's ship, the Malmori Sonic Tank, and the Malmori Drone fighter all use parts from the Leopold, the Morser Karl, and the 88mm Flak kits, and before I commit the styrene parts to Cowboy's model, I am making copies to bag, label, and set aside so that when I do tackle doing the other models, I have many of the parts prepped and ready to go!

Additionally, I am racing the clock to have Cowboy's ship done by the end of May for the Wonderfest show. No big deal, as we have enough parts ID'd to do the build, right? Ah, but it's Spring in East Tennessee! Getting the garden sorted and keeping the house and property properly attended to, a week of mandatory vacation - use it or lose it - (with my very patient wife!) means being out of town. Thirty days *might* be enough time!

[LeeS]

Hey,
Ahhh ok no problems!
I do have the SRN4 part molded if you want it and I just received these Plastruct parts (I have spares)

Please let me know the parts you have molded as I might buy some from you instead of molding them too.
BTW If I was you, I'd not hurry it for this years WF, new information might be arriving shortly.....

L

[LeeS]

Hey all, need some help with these parts:

Please have a close look :-)

[ColinSMT]

Hey Lee,

I see the following:

Red circle marked 1 looks like a plastruct HEMI on a piece of tubing sized slightly large with the opposite being a dished dome with one of the larger green lamps on it... not clear enough to see well though.
   

#2 is clear enough, they are a set of EMA/Plastruct PMC (pump motor controls) they come in various sizes here is just one example.

           

I hope that helps. If I get more time, I will dig in the other photos. The last one next to my circled #2 looks like one of the white markers (glued upside down on the angle ) you have in the picture above mounted to another piece.

[LeeS]

Well look at that!!!
Great spotting Colin, that's a really important part nailed!
thanks (I'll be in touch shortly with an order.

L

[Joseph C. Brown]

... and a year later - some progress.  The Moonship (Glencoe or re-issue Hawk) parts 11 & 12 make up the leg cylinder tanks.  You just trim the upper and lower flanges off, and they are a match.  The ones that I had made up from other bits now go into the un-sorted misc build supply box, since they are slightly too big for this model ...
   


The legs are now attached at a 45-degree angle to the central tube, and have their outer sleeve on.  These will get strip-stock added, six 1-mm tall strips. 
   


Lee S. had suggested I check one of the older Bandai 1/48 scale Elefant for parts, and he was right again!  The box I thought I had from a Esci 1/72 Elefant was the correct one, just too small.  The 1/48 Bandai version is the same box, just correctly sized.

[ColinSMT]

Excellent work, glad to see some progress happening!
Its amazing where those 1/48 Bandai kits turn up in models.

[Joseph C. Brown]

Some progress on the ship:

   

   

   

[roboterkampf]

Looking forward to seeing this at Wonderfest?!

[LeeS]

Making some progress! About 75% of the parts are accurate. There's very little reference except from the BluRay/DVD. There is a 1/48th Tiger I part that was found yesterday and will be updated later. On to the rest of it.

[Joseph C. Brown]

That is awesome!!!!!

[ColinSMT]

Wow, that is looking good Lee.

For so little reference I think you have nailed the overall "look" and design specifics.
I cannot wait to see more!

[Joseph C. Brown]

And the lighting is - after a false start or two - underway. I used the warm LED kit from here:
http://www.modeltrainsoftware.com/doll-h...ights.html

Very affordable and simple.

[LeeS]

Those engines look great!!!
Time to finish it up for Wonderfest right?
:-)