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scratchy · 09-18-2010, 06:37 PM

The start of the garbage chute. I glued two pieces of .060 styrene together, just so that there's some strength and the piece fits snuggly in the neck of the tower

The floor and two pieces angled onto the walls

A nice fit, just placed inside

I made two detail pieces of the 20mm Flak carriage, one for the front of the neck, which has more details, and the other will be glued in the back of the garbage chute.

Here's the piece glued to the front

I need some help with an I.D. Does anyone know where this kitpart came from that is used for the ceiling of the chute, I don't have any good reference pics of the details.

Cylon-Knight · 09-19-2010, 03:22 AM

Wow - your build is AMAZING! Great work.

***JAWS*** · 09-19-2010, 10:30 AM

Wow Jay that is freakn awsome!!!!! I love your work man is fantastic. Thats also a nice picture of the back neck mate. Got anymore good ref you could share with the site?

09-20-2010, 12:30 AM

I don't think they have such small kits for the one that you're building in this tiny scale. I can't see that very well, but it looks like the same part on top, and bottom. Maybe these are tank fenders?

~ Cobra Chris

scratchy · 09-20-2010, 02:28 AM

(09-19-2010, 03:22 AM)Cylon-Knight Wrote: Wow - your build is AMAZING! Great work.

Thank you Cylon Knight Wink

(09-19-2010, 10:30 AM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: Wow Jay that is freakn awsome!!!!! I love your work man is fantastic. Thats also a nice picture of the back neck mate. Got anymore good ref you could share with the site?

Thanks Jason, I'll see what I can find!

(09-20-2010, 12:30 AM)427 Cobra Wrote: I don't think they have such small kits for the one that you're building in this tiny scale. I can't see that very well, but it looks like the same part on top, and bottom. Maybe these are tank fenders?

~ Cobra Chris

Chris, I'f I could find donor kits for this build then half my job would be done. However, since no kits are made this small then I just need to look at the actual part to recreate a downsized version of it for my build.

Monsieur Tox came through for me and "opened my eyes" to the part that was used for this area..... the armor shields from the Mobelwagen! Smile

09-20-2010, 11:54 AM

I figured as much. I just wondered where you were going to get something so small inside that trash chute. Tongue

You're doing an amazing job on this, I'm not going to rain on your parade - just keep going. I have problems of my own to sort out right now. As long as you stay on this, I'll try to stay on my X-wing build. Maybe this will take my mind off the sale of my grandmothers' house. I need your strength, Scratchy - it's one of the few things that keeps ME going is the work I see on this site.

~ Cobra Chris

scratchy · 09-22-2010, 01:59 PM

Here's the three individual pieces of the garbage chute, I looked at the scene in ESB to see if this chute was lighted, it wasn't. However, I'm going to go ahead and light it anyway

The three pieces assembled prior to paint and glue....

....painted, glued and a test light

***JAWS*** · 09-22-2010, 08:00 PM

Killer Jay just frakn killer work mate.

scratchy · 09-23-2010, 10:39 AM

Thanks Jason. I can now detail the top and back of the Neck/Spine.

kbilly · 09-23-2010, 12:24 PM

Scatchy that Flak piece looks awesome mate, as does the whole build so far. That flak piece is one of the more recognisable parts on the destroyer, so you've really made the whole thing look the way it's supposed to. Can't believe how small that piece is!!

scratchy · 09-24-2010, 02:13 AM

Thanks Kbilly!

I agree, that part really does stand out in the front. There's so many parts that I'm looking forward to build as I look at all the details on the reference pics that I'm using.

Time consuming, but well worth it in the end.
Thank you everybody

scratchy · 09-29-2010, 07:09 PM

Some work on the flanges that's on the spine.

I tried to find some "T" plastic strip from Plastruct and Evergreen that would fit this area, but neither companies make anything small enough. I purchased some Plastruct ABS TEE 90081 for the edges of the spine though and it looks to be a good fit. For the flanges, I cut some .010" styrene into 3mm strips, scribed, and glued pieces to the spine.

I used some .010X.020 strips from Evergreen, cut four seperate pieces and glued them to the 3mm pieces

I continued the same technique for the back end

I'm really looking forward to detailing this area, and the front where I glued the Flak carriage to the neck

***JAWS*** · 09-29-2010, 08:10 PM

Thanks for the update Jay. Looking good my friend. My son says "AWSOME!!!".

09-30-2010, 01:58 AM

Are all those parts scratch made? If so - this is truly rocking! I wish I had more enthusiasm for having hot acrylic flying everywhere - mostly all over my clothes, and my body. Rolleyes

I could have a blast then, as this is what I have most of to do to get my kit to where yours is. It isn't a lack of patience - just get tiny burns all over my arms, and face. Are you using all styrene for this Star destroyer?

~ Cobra Chris

scratchy · (This post was last modified: 09-30-2010, 03:53 AM by scratchy.)

(09-29-2010, 08:10 PM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: Thanks for the update Jay. Looking good my friend. My son says "AWSOME!!!".

thanks Jason! And be sure to give your son a "leaping high-five" for me Smile

(09-30-2010, 01:58 AM)427 Cobra Wrote: Are all those parts scratch made? If so - this is truly rocking! I wish I had more enthusiasm for having hot acrylic flying everywhere - mostly all over my clothes, and my body. I could have a blast then, as this is what I have most of to do to get my kit to where yours is. It isn't a lack of patience - just get tiny burns all over my arms, and face. Are you using all styrene for this Star destroyer?

~ Cobra Chris

hi Chris, yes every white piece is a piece of styrene that was cut from the sheet, strips or tube, I also have a little bit of grey styrene in there as well. The other little bits, that aren't white, where pieces taken from some 1/700 battleships (very few pieces) these are pieces that where molded into the main deck and shaved off for this build. However, I'll try and find something that looks like the piece that is on the studio model.

Since I'm building this, I thought why not build the part that goes in that specific place. I wasn't as focused with my first attempt back in the early 90's.

I suppose I should've called this thread "Scratchbuilt Kitparts" and I'm just glueing them to something that looks like a star destroyer LOL.

scratchy · 10-08-2010, 06:30 AM

Hello all,

just a quick note, I'll have some of my WIP builds at this weekends IPMS show in Vancouver. I'll have the Star Destroyer, three scratched 1/72 AT-STs and my lighted 1/2256 Nebulon B on display.

For more details;

http://www.ipmsvancouver.ca/

scratchy · 11-06-2010, 02:13 PM

It's been awhile, here's some pics on the progress of the back of the "Neck". Still have some more detail to throw on it, hope you like.

11-07-2010, 12:23 AM

That's phenomenal for something so small! Christ, Scratchy - I don't see how you can stand to make something that's so tiny you almost need a microscope to see it! Tongue

I hate making parts for my four foot beast, and it's HUGE! Maybe the reason is because any mistakes I make are just as big as the parts themselves, and the correction is just as big. I love the ribbing. I was going to suggest 0.10" styrene rod laid side by side for the ribs to make it a little easier. You could glue them all lengthwise with a 0.10" thick styrene sheet in between to separate them until they're placed. This would make them perfectly even without small twists, or uneveness. Of course, you'd have to cut each section to the width of the neck once dry. Use this method on your next build, or just for practice. It works really well for me! Wink

~ Cobra Chris

scratchy · 11-07-2010, 12:18 PM

(11-07-2010, 12:23 AM)427 Cobra Wrote: I love the ribbing. I was going to suggest 0.10" styrene rod laid side by side for the ribs to make it a little easier. You could glue them all lengthwise with a 0.10" thick styrene sheet in between to separate them until they're placed. This would make them perfectly even without small twists, or uneveness. Of course, you'd have to cut each section to the width of the neck once dry. Use this method on your next build, or just for practice. It works really well for me!

~ Cobra Chris

CC, that's a good suggestion..... wish I would've thought of it at the time though. There's still some areas on this build that I haven't started yet, if you, or anyone else have any ideas, feel free to mention them, I welcome all constructive feedback.... as long as it's on an area that isn't finished or partially started, I don't like going back into my work Big Grin

**dbhs** · 11-07-2010, 12:43 PM

Wow - more incredible detail in that last set of pics. Great !

***JAWS*** · 11-08-2010, 07:18 AM

Too long between updates but I guess making stuff that intricate takes time. Thanks Jay.

scratchy · (This post was last modified: 11-08-2010, 10:19 AM by scratchy.)

(11-08-2010, 07:18 AM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: Too long between updates but I guess making stuff that intricate takes time. Thanks Jay.

I would like to say "Yes, that's exactly it" but I would be lying to you Jason. More like home renovations and fireplace mantel carpentry project. However, I did manage to find two more donor kits for the SS-MF today Big Grin

scratchy · 11-13-2010, 07:12 AM

Here's a little more work on the back of the neck,.....

scratchy · 12-16-2010, 03:06 AM

It's been over a month since my last post. I haven't had much time to work on this build but I did manage to finish and start a couple sections.

The last of the detailing of the back of the neck,.....

a close up.....

Here's the start of the Port and Starboard sides of the Neck

12-16-2010, 03:24 AM

Cant wait to see this beauty in primer ! Smile

***JAWS*** · 12-16-2010, 05:20 PM

That is insane work....

scratchy · 12-18-2010, 02:21 AM

(12-16-2010, 03:24 AM)MonsieurTox Wrote: Cant wait to see this beauty in primer !

Yeah me too!

(12-16-2010, 05:20 PM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: That is insane work....

Insane?.... I'm coming into my third year working on this beast, now that's insane Wink

Gentlemen, I thank you for the kind words Cool

***JAWS*** · 12-19-2010, 07:35 AM

Well you'd definately have to be to scratch build what you have. Its awsome to see how people create models from bits of plastic & scraps. Very talented.

scratchy · 12-19-2010, 05:07 PM

(12-19-2010, 07:35 AM)jasonwright.1972 Wrote: Well you'd definately have to be to scratch build what you have. Its awsome to see how people create models from bits of plastic & scraps. Very talented.

Thanks Jase Cool

I added a little more detailing since the last post, the sides are going by a little bit faster than the rest of the areas on the command tower and neck. Nothing like cutting up some larger pieces and gluing them on, as opposed to making little intricate pieces.

kbilly · 12-19-2010, 05:43 PM

I still can't get over the detail you've achieved on something this small!!

scratchy · 12-22-2010, 06:05 AM

(12-19-2010, 05:43 PM)kbilly Wrote: I still can't get over the detail you've achieved on something this small!!

Yeah, it can get pretty involved at times, but well worth it.

Here's some work on the grates on the bottom of the neck. I scribed a couple pieces of styrene before laminating it to another piece. Then I followed up with cutting out the spaces inbetween, then adding some .005" styrene strip to the edges

The finished pieces glued to their respective spots

***JAWS*** · 12-23-2010, 05:35 PM

Yeah your certified & I love it.

scratchy · 12-28-2010, 08:19 PM

(12-23-2010, 05:35 PM)omes72 Wrote: Yeah your certified

Yeah,.... I won't argue with that Cool

I added some detail along the port side, figure I'ld get the detailed side out of the way first as opposed to the starboard side.

Here's a size reference with a "tool" that I'm sure everyone has handy

The finished pieces glued to their respective spots

Hope you like the pics

darkimmitator · 12-29-2010, 01:54 PM

Insane details Scratchy . Just INSANE !!!!!!!!! Love it !!

**dbhs** · 12-31-2010, 01:32 AM

(12-29-2010, 01:54 PM)darkimmitator Wrote: Insane details Scratchy . Just INSANE !!!!!!!!! Love it !!

Copy that - very impressive work.

scratchy · 01-02-2011, 09:20 PM

Thanks dbhs and darkimmitator.

Here is the last of the pics of the Port side of the neck, I was just think how much fun I'm going to have sanding all these areas once the initial build is done.

scratchy · 01-09-2011, 06:59 PM

Whenever I make some really delicate parts, I usually glue them to a small sheet of glass. In this first pic, I'm turning some stretched sprue on my dremel, just sanding down the piece to give me a diffinate edge. I ran out of small guns on some old kits, so I had to scratch some up. In the following images, you'll see how I go about building some detail pieces. I also made a couple more for the starboard side. After the parts are dry, I just take a razor blade and "slice" the piece off the glass.

Here's the starboard side with the parts I made and some more parts.

***JAWS*** · 01-11-2011, 05:35 PM

The lighter really put this build into perspective Jay. Now I know your insane & I love it. Keep up the good work matey.

01-12-2011, 01:23 PM

I love your work Jay ! (and the subject :p)

scratchy · 01-12-2011, 03:11 PM

Thanks Jase and Julien!

I finished the starboard side, I may have to go back into some areas and do a little clean up, next I'll do the small front piece of the neck.....

scratchy · 01-18-2011, 05:51 PM

The front piece went by fast. I had to rebuild the Flak carriage that was glued to the front of the neck. The new one is better. I still have to add four pieces of bent plastic rod, but I can't do that until the area that's just in front is detailed. You won't be able to see these pieces in any of the images on the internet, but they are visible in Sculpting a Galaxy, they more than likely broke off over the years.

With the tower and the neck completed, I'll start on the superstructure, the top should be a nice break.

scratchy · 02-10-2011, 02:56 PM

I scratched up some detail pieces, the tank treads in the center at the tower neck, the Flak 38 pieces are next to them. I also made some detail pieces for the front, a piece from the Duster, a couple more from the flak 38, and the nine armour plates. I'll pencil in the panel lines once the basecoat gets sprayed on.

**dbhs** · 02-10-2011, 04:59 PM

It continues to amaze me. Thanks for the updates.

scratchy · 02-19-2011, 07:55 PM

(02-10-2011, 04:59 PM)dbhs Wrote: It continues to amaze me. Thanks for the updates.

Thank you dbhs, here's another just for you. Big Grin

I finally finished the last of the details for the top level of the Superstructure. I'll work on all the top decks, before placing the side details. I also finished the last details for the front of the neck. I used some brass rod for the four conduits at the base of the neck. I hope you guys like the pics.

02-20-2011, 02:15 AM

I love the first pic !

You're moving faster than I do. lol Good job J !

scratchy · 02-20-2011, 04:28 AM

Thanks MonsieurTox. The kitpart details are time consuming, but once those are done, it's just cutting up chips and glueing them on. The top was easy, very few kit parts to replicate. The next deck down, looks like a few kitparts was used, so I'll probally be bogged down in that section.

Of course, mapping the areas prior to cutting styrene is also a job in itself. Dodgy

**dbhs** · 02-20-2011, 05:23 AM

(02-19-2011, 07:55 PM)scratchy Wrote: Thank you dbhs, here's another just for you.

Thanks Scratchy !!!

What is the thickness of the styrene you are using on the panels on the flat surfaces of the main hull?

scratchy · 02-20-2011, 05:51 AM

(02-20-2011, 05:23 AM)dbhs Wrote: What is the thickness of the styrene you are using on the panels on the flat surfaces of the main hull?

The white styrene panel thickness is .005" or .12mm

***JAWS*** · 02-24-2011, 05:02 PM

So nice Jay. Really love your work.

scratchy · 02-24-2011, 05:20 PM

Thanks Jase. I'm just preparing to work on the next level. I'm really surprised that after two years of working on this, I still have the ambition to continue on with no ISD burn out.

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