12-07-2009, 08:39 AM
(12-06-2009, 08:03 AM)PB BB1 Wrote: Hey guys, no worries, please discuss on!Aren't you putting your foot in your mouth just a little? You basically contradicted yourself in this post. The Estes Corporation wouldn't have a reason to lie about this! Look at ALL the posts here before you post a reply! Look at the comparison shot,and see that this is dead on to the original ILM model. Now there may be a few differences between the original model that was cast for the Maxi-Brute model,and the final version offered to the public. There may,or may not have been some changes made,but since no one has an original ILM model to compare to,everyone is assuming with their ignorant input as to this models' lineage.
As for the Maxi Brute... well there's a reason you thought it better than the MPC... it is THE X imo. There is currently no proof at all that it was based on an ILM Hero buck... or anything taken home from that visit. If there is more information here than the mailer linked in my first post, then please I beg you to share it here. The more I look at this thing the more I realize this IS IT.
That is, until I offer a fuselage kit. Might want to sell those MBs... gonna be offering my work up to any builders. I will NOT be selling a complete kit and I am already getting a head of myself.
What was changed,and to what extent is still largely unknown. The hyperdrive motivator/actuator was obviously different from the original ILM models,but what other changes that aren't obvious so far are being exaggerated. This is a fallacy that is being perpetuated by the members of the RPF who are in search of the perfect X-wing. Most of them only have the Captain Cardboard,or Mike Salzo kit,and not the Maxi-Brute model to compare to. The original ILM buck didn't have scribe lines,and neither did the original Maxi-Brute model! The latter Maxi-Brute version had scribe lines,and no canopy.
At the risk of sounding facecious,before you become offended,or defensive: Estes was there at the ILM shop! Neither you,or I,or any of the members of the RPF were there either when this went down! Most of these poor bastards on these modeling forums believe misinformation some fool told them,or by what they see on their T.V.,or computer screen! A lot of the things they say are purely speculation based on what they see,or what they think they see in a book,or on a forum. It's getting old seeing threads like this one,where there is no concrete evidence,but a lot of armchair experts on this subject that haven't really researched it!
I believe the Estes story,as the former owner of the now defunct studioscalemodeler.com confirmed this himself through the company. I too,would love to see documentation. But there is very little evidence out there,as the company thought that all of this wasn't neccessary to provide to the public to sell a model rocket that looks like a Star Wars X-wing fighter!
Here's the original auction for this X-wing. This is purported to have been Richard Edlunds' at one time. The number of X-wings that were actually made was reported wrong in this description.
![[Image: A32_193-240web_Page_48.jpg]](http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss229/Photostaff/Reference%20photos/A32_193-240web_Page_48.jpg)
This is a closeup of the inner wing detail that has been highlighted,or blocked in blue,so as to not distract you attention from the lines that decorate this styrene insert.
![[Image: x-pattern-01.jpg]](http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss229/Photostaff/Reference%20photos/x-pattern-01.jpg)
Here's another photo of these being sprayed with silicone mould release. This was an acrylic primer that was painted over with black for a more even coverage under the white. This allowed the modelers to see how thick the white paint is on top of the models in terms of coverage.
