01-09-2010, 04:47 PM
OK,Paul. I thought it was you that posted the asymmetry of the original ILM models. It was Colin Droidmilk of the RPF. Either way,this is what I think you mean when you say that all the nosecones are not moulded in. You ARE CORRECT. Each of these was cut individually,and not moulded on the hero models,or even the pyro models for that matter! Here's Red 4 - the one that was stolen from the ILM shop before filming ever began.The Red 3 of Empire was actually made for that film. It has hollow wings. Only Red 1,2,5,and 6 had hollow wings in the first Star Wars movie. All others were made from polyester resin. Look very carefully at the nosecone,and the indent made from cutting into it. It's not perfectly centered in the middle. This is what I meant when I told you about the handmade quality that these all have.
After making the first four models,it was decided to cast the rest - Red 3,4,and 12 because of time constraints. There are photos of Red 3, in pieces in a display touring the world,and I have a photo of the Red 4 (that was actually filmed) in pieces after being framed for posterity. We know that these did NOT survive the first movie. This is why there are no photos of Red 1,3.4,6,or even 12 after the first movie in the archives,but everyone on the RPF wants this to not be true - none more than me! Red 12 was truly never filmed and shown in the movie,but it isn't known that this was blown up,or not. Sadly,this was destroyed during filming. It's demise wasn't filmed,even though there is film of this model,but since wing numbers 7 through 11 didn't exist,it wouldn't make sense to show this being blown up,with the aforementioned not even seeing a second of time in the final version of the movie.
It wasn't filmed in a firey explosion,but it was used to test the pyrotechnics before all the others were blown up. There is a film gel out there that has surfaced of the Red 12 model,but this never made it into the movie. Since there was little time,and money for twelve actual models,one of our resident smartasses decided to make the last of the rogue group numbers anyway! This is why there were never more than the original six filmed,as these were the core characters. There wasn't time,or money to make,and film all the models in the group,which is why only the first six are shown in the original Star Wars movie.
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After making the first four models,it was decided to cast the rest - Red 3,4,and 12 because of time constraints. There are photos of Red 3, in pieces in a display touring the world,and I have a photo of the Red 4 (that was actually filmed) in pieces after being framed for posterity. We know that these did NOT survive the first movie. This is why there are no photos of Red 1,3.4,6,or even 12 after the first movie in the archives,but everyone on the RPF wants this to not be true - none more than me! Red 12 was truly never filmed and shown in the movie,but it isn't known that this was blown up,or not. Sadly,this was destroyed during filming. It's demise wasn't filmed,even though there is film of this model,but since wing numbers 7 through 11 didn't exist,it wouldn't make sense to show this being blown up,with the aforementioned not even seeing a second of time in the final version of the movie.
It wasn't filmed in a firey explosion,but it was used to test the pyrotechnics before all the others were blown up. There is a film gel out there that has surfaced of the Red 12 model,but this never made it into the movie. Since there was little time,and money for twelve actual models,one of our resident smartasses decided to make the last of the rogue group numbers anyway! This is why there were never more than the original six filmed,as these were the core characters. There wasn't time,or money to make,and film all the models in the group,which is why only the first six are shown in the original Star Wars movie.