Are you guys still talking about this old thing?
![[Image: fuselage.jpg]](http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/budmataul/fuselage.jpg)
Thank you Cobra, but I'm still trying to reconcile over here.
Except the Red 3 set reveals a styrene bottom. I get what you are saying about these fuselages BUT the first few must have used a styrene bottom, right? You know before the were totally fed up with their motor control miniatures. We can see the buck right next to the molds for the Hero buck in this photograph.
![[Image: herobuck.jpg]](http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/budmataul/herobuck.jpg)
All I'm saying is of all the photos of the moco X wings under construction indicate a greyish top (like the pyro master pattern) and maybe a styrene bottom. My only evidence for a styrene bottom in this case is the Red 3 miniature.
And the only other versions would be the pyros themselves. Though perhaps incorrectly designated. Sure some of their destinies was to blow but it seems the goal was to create an out-of-the-mold complete X wing so they wouldn't have to painstakingly recreate panel lines and scratchbuild wings. Though you can hardly blame these guys as we are lucky to have any photos of their process at all.
![[Image: fuselage.jpg]](http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/budmataul/fuselage.jpg)
(02-13-2010, 11:08 AM)427 Cobra Wrote: First off,let me set your mind at ease. These were initially supposed to have had polyurethane fuselage bottoms,but after the fiaso with the mould it was decided to use a polystyrene fuselage,but this had its' problems too. These warped when glued,as the hot lights from the studios prevented polystrene from being used. This was cast from the styrene bottom in urethane resin instead. This followed the incorrect shape of the styrene fuselage. The only one that survived with this styrene was the converted master that was auctioned off.
This was reinforced with J.B. Weld inside because it wouldn't stop splitting (separated from the top),so it had to be glued in some way to keep it from doing this again. This is why you see the so called "pyro master" in the auction,as this was unusable. The Polyurethane that was used is also sold on another website. I'll PM the URL when I find it -it's on my favourites. The top of the first few fuselages was made from a polyurethane that would foam,but when mixed,and put under pressure wouldn't have the expansion that modern expanding foam has,as this was treated with a hardener. Contrary to what is believed on the RPF -this is why NONE of the pyro models have styrene on them,and none of the subsequent hero models have a styrene bottom either!
All the scribe lines were all the same,and were scribed by Grant McCune,and Lorne Peterson. The only things that were different were the chip panels (greeblies) all along the sides of the fuselages. From all the ILM modelers I've talked with past,and present - not one of the pyro models,or hero models ever used a styrene bottom.
Thank you Cobra, but I'm still trying to reconcile over here.
Except the Red 3 set reveals a styrene bottom. I get what you are saying about these fuselages BUT the first few must have used a styrene bottom, right? You know before the were totally fed up with their motor control miniatures. We can see the buck right next to the molds for the Hero buck in this photograph.
![[Image: herobuck.jpg]](http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/budmataul/herobuck.jpg)
All I'm saying is of all the photos of the moco X wings under construction indicate a greyish top (like the pyro master pattern) and maybe a styrene bottom. My only evidence for a styrene bottom in this case is the Red 3 miniature.
And the only other versions would be the pyros themselves. Though perhaps incorrectly designated. Sure some of their destinies was to blow but it seems the goal was to create an out-of-the-mold complete X wing so they wouldn't have to painstakingly recreate panel lines and scratchbuild wings. Though you can hardly blame these guys as we are lucky to have any photos of their process at all.

