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(11-24-2009, 08:02 AM)PB BB1 Wrote: But look sharp. Red 1 is on the table twice in the shot of the proud modelmakers. One Hero, one pyro.

Actually,look CLOSER - NO THERE ISN'T! That's Red 2 you're truly seeing. I'm going to put this falacy to rest once,and for all! This is a myth perpetuated by the members of the RPF,but it's not true. They think they're seeing something that really isn't there. I think it's because of this first photo that isn't very clear. How do you get a hero version of a model that's slated to be destroyed? Besides,that picture is too grainy,and fuzzy to get any real detail from.


How do they figure that the model behind Red leader (already finished) is another version,when most of these have yet to be finished painted at the time this picture was taken?! This is a falacy that is being perpetuated by Nwerke of the RPF - he thinks the model in the back (behind Red leader) is the " hero version" of this PYRO model! As you can see - there's no way to tell which one is which,except for the characteristics that only these three models that are decorated have. Yellow canopy - Red 4,red laser canon of the left wing - Red 6 (behind Red 4),and of course,Red leader in its' finished state. The model behind Red leader is a pyro model,as it's wing details are boxed in just like the other pyro models were. This could very well be Red 3,as this wouldn't span the wing enough to be seen from this angle. The laser canons' back edge further obstructs the view of the wing number.





I understand that they look similar,but Red 2 also had a very clean nosecone albeit with a yellow colour (that washed out with the harsh lighting),and a little dirt spot on the same side of the fuselage as Red leader. But the poor quality of this photo,and the bad lighting makes it hard to see the second stripe on the top left wing. Look at the top right wing after Red 5 - you'll see a very small second red stripe beside the one that looks like it's attached to the chevron. Also - look at the nosecone of Red leader,then look at the nosecone of Red 2 - the one that you think is a "hero version" of it. Red leaders' is dirty - Red 2s' isn't.

Maybe the same guys that painted Red leader started to paint Red 2 the same after having a few too many beers on the job? Who knows? No two modelers worked completely on the same model to keep from repeating the exact same paint sceme is my guess. This doesn't mean that they wouldn't include a few of the same characteristics from one model to the other. This photo was furnished by a member of the RPF who also knows that there was no hero version of Red leader. There are 7 models on this table - the last being Red 12. Therefore,we know that these are the only X-wings that exist. This was done,as to show their work was finished,and that they were proud of it.



This is Red 12 - Red 6,as only it has red laser canons,and Red 4 from left to right.




This is John Dykstra with his hand on the actual Red leader. If you're looking at this thinking that Red leader is also the second model to the left of it- DON'T,as it's not! There is more weathering/dirt by the canopy of Red 2. Remember,Red leader was very clean.




Here's what you guys think you're seeing as a scorch mark.
Also noteworthy,is that none of these ILM models had glass in them - these were film gels that were painted on the outside of the canopy edges,and lightly tacked into place with a sticky glue that wasn't permanent. Look closely at this picture,and you'll see the raised edges. I just wonder why none of the RPF detectives never caught this?





Here you can see damage that's not visible in the movie. This also proves that Red 2 was very dirty,and also similarly distressed in the same area as Red leader was. Look at the small chipping on the nosecone of Red 2 - by the line what the top,and bottom halves meet.



With this lighting being farther away, you can see more detail than with the light being right on top of it washing all the detail out. Remember - when you see something far away,it makes all the detail wash out,and non-existent when looking at it. This is also compounded with poor lighting,and lack of focus. The poor optical clarity of the camera also contributes to this. The higher the resolution - the clearer the picture.

Resolution - not definition,as it should be properly said.



This (for the sake of argument) is Red 12. This is the seventh model on the table.



Before you become offended,or whatever your reaction to this post - I too thought that there were two Red leaders when I looked at some of these pictures. I poured over these for hours trying to make sense of them. I saw the photo with the wing numbers superimposed in it on the RPF,but I don't remember who,or where I downloaded that from. They made it easier to figure out which one was truly which,and not an assumuption with a fuzzy photograph. After seeing these,and comparing along with talking to a few others,I figured the exact same thing that I posted here,so that you all can know the truth,and not a bunch of misguided guesses.