Executor

[leukirix]

Hi at all,

After a long time, I study executor. I will try to build Executor, studioscale dimensions. I don't know if it's possible to build a perfect studioscale, because too much parts : plasticard cut, kit parts... But I will try...
Executor measures 280x90x30cm, but a friend say measures in the book "Chronicle" are fake...
Thanks at man to the Executor pictures place in web and here with kits scan. About kits used by ILM, on the top, I indentified at this time battleship Tamiya 1/700 scale :

http://www.studioscalemodelers.com/forum...p?tid=1244


Tamiya-(1/700)-U.S Aircraft Carrier Enterprise(AT-AT per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-U.S Aircraft Carrier Hornet(Millennium Falcon per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-HMS Rodney(ISD:ESB per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Hood(Millennium Falcon per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-King George V(ISD:ESB per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Nelson(ISD:ESB per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Prince Of Wales(AT-ST per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Taiho(AT-ST per qcfoundry)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Gneisenau(TIE Bomber per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Scharnhorst(TIE Bomber per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Junyo(TIE Bomber per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Kumano(Millennium Falcon per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Shinano(vintage) (AT-AT per Monsieur Tox)
Tamiya-(1/700)-Yamato (vintage)(ISD:ESB per Monsieur Tox)

- Tamiya SDKFZ 223 1/35
- Tamiya 88mmGunFlak36/37 1/35
- Roco Flagpanzer gepard 1/87

To underside, some tank kit 1/87 scale :

1 : marder 1A2
3 : jagdpanzer kanone
and Flagpanzer gepard

Tamiya 1/35 scale :
2 : SDKFZ 232
jagdpanzerV jagdpanther

1/144 Saturn V

[kbilly]

This will be so hard! But good luck!

[dbhs]

Wow. This will be a huge challenge. Even if every detail in not there, just being in studio scale will be amazing.

[leukirix]

Thanks

I see marder 1A2 1/35 scale Tamiya... About part n°1 picture above, it would marder 1A2 but 1/72 scale, but what model ? Revell ? Italery ? I don't search in web...
What do you think ?

[MonsieurTox]

This is really a cool model to ID and it's not that hard because most of the models are common to the Star Destroyer.

You'll need several Revell Midway carriers (1/542), unfortunatly it's OOP (and I bought them all for my Star Destroyer P).

You also need several 1/87 Roco Gepard (easy to find).

The big problem on this one is the lack of reference :/ And all styrene strips with cutout that were cut by a machine, I would use a vinyl plotter, draw several pattern in illustrator or corel draw then get thousand of strips cut !

Best of luck for this one Franck !

[leukirix]

Thanks Julien,
I ask me what are the long parts, I had seen several boats, but I don't find Revell Midway 1/542 scale, thank you. I correct gepar flakpanzer 1/35 Tamiya > 1/87 Roco Gepard. I drew the plans, I have Gepar flak turret 1/35, and I didn't check... Mdrr !
I search marder 1A2 1/72 (1/76) scale, but I find Revel marder 1A3 l/72 scale... May be 1/87 Herpa/Roco ??
But Roco model are kits with parts or die cast ??

[leukirix]

I find part n°3 : jagdpanzerkanone 1/87 Roco...

[leukirix]

Help to this parts please... An idea ?

[JAWS]

Morser Carl Liekirix

[LastBattlestar]

The curved arm to the bottom right of the Karl part might be from the Tamiya Flakvierling also?

Mike

[leukirix]

Sh... I looked moser karl, and I haden't seen !!!
Thanks !
But about flakvierling, the part is almost similar, but some differents... I see to another scale or other modeler...

[MonsieurTox]

This is indeed the trailer from the Tamiya Flakvierling38, another part from this kit is also glued on the Saturn V can (this is a rectangular box with the wheel cutout and a raised cross on it). It looks like there's a 1/700 tamiya battleship barrel glued on it.

[JAWS]

No worries Leukirix.
This is actually one of my favorite models.
Never thought of trying to Id it as its so detailed.
Now youve started we might as well finish it ay.

[leukirix]

I search a company about photocut. I find some company in Europe...
I hope price not expensive...
Thanks Jase, thank Julien, I search again...

[leukirix]

photo cut price received :

10 sheet (one sheet A4 210/297mm with 22 photocut parts) : 220 parts > 320$ / 245eus (1 part, 6/8cm length = 1,45$ / 1,10eus)...
What do you think ?

[Flixen]

(03-14-2012, 11:05 PM)leukirix Wrote: photo cut price received :

10 sheet (one sheet A4 210/297mm with 22 photocut parts) : 220 parts > 320$ / 245eus (1 part, 6/8cm length = 1,45$ / 1,10eus)...
What do you think ?

Are u talking about photoetched sheet metal?
The price is not to bad I think.
BUT you will need a LOT more then 10 sheets.
I guess it more in the 200 sheet area for a model with a size like that

Let say u have to cover a length of 260cm and the cut parts are 7cm long. That makes 37 peaces just to cover 1 side 74 for both sides. With the total of 220 peace you could cover only 3 layers.

I personally would cut the peaces from styrene. You propably could get enought styrene for 200€ for the hole ship.
Maybe you could get some metal templates cut that would make it much easier to cut all the hundreds and hundreds of layers need.
Just my thought about that.
Hope it helps.
Felix

[MonsieurTox]

Franck, what do you want to do with photoetched parts ? The layers were made from styrene on the original, they indeed used photoetched parts, but to create the windows...

[leukirix]

Photoetched to this parts :



I thought used photoetched parts because I don't see myself cutting all part one to one...

How to work quickly with styrene ??? I don't idea !

[MonsieurTox]

(03-15-2012, 05:39 PM)leukirix Wrote: Photoetched to this parts :



I thought used photoetched parts because I don't see myself cutting all part one to one...

How to work quickly with styrene ??? I don't idea !

All these parts (and the layers of the superstructures) were cut by a computer. You can just use a CNC if you have one (pricey) or buy a vinyl plotter, you can find one for cheap. It usually cut vinyl but you can cut thin styrene (0.5mm) and score thicker styrene (1mm, I think that's what you need) then snap the parts.

[Flixen]

I have access to an vinyl plotter.
I can't guarantee it but I might be abel to help u on that.
Let me know what u think.
Felix

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Ah and another reason not to use brass or any other metall it the weight.
I did a quick test a 1mm sheet 60mm x 270mm brass weights 137g
A styrene sheet with the same size weights just 17g.

[leukirix]

Thanks Julien, thanks Flixen to help you. I mail some company to cut styrene (laser cut or other), I wait reply their. I draw 22 part on paper A4. Problem is not plotter, but cut...

[MonsieurTox]

I would avoid laser cutting, it requires a lot of cleaning (the styrene tends to melt).

What do you mean by "problem is not plotter but cut" ? FYI a vynil plotter cuts...

[leukirix]

Yes Julien, probably, I asked some company, I received some reply...

"What do you mean by "problem is not plotter but cut" ? FYI a vynil plotter cuts..."
I don't understand, Julien, my english is rotten !!!

[leukirix]

Good news ! I find company to laser cut...
Picture when I received parts.

[JAWS]

cant eait for some pics!
Have you cut the hull yet?

[leukirix]

No, building no start. I search kit and laser cut/photoetched.
Before to start building I've some work to my house : two new rooms, a new workshop to my job and after I start building Executor... September I think.

[Aurora]

Try using ponoko a cnc cutting service charges about $.50 per minute just need to supply the files

[JAWS]

When i get stuff laser cut they can use nearly any type of file. Even a PDF.

[leukirix]

I find a company. I must give file Autocad 97 to laser cut and PDF to photoetched. I used 2 possibility : laser cut and photoetched, I order 440 parts : 220 parts styrene 1mm and 220 parts photoetched 0,4mm and in addition I used rest after cut, 500 parts additional probably.

[leukirix]

Hi guy's...

I begin the job... I build bottom and axe, plans finished, my first plans are wrong, so I restart !
I've some kits, but I must to buy 12503,25 other kits again !!!

[JAWS]

Welcome back Leukirix!
Glad to see you still chipping away at this.
Definately looking forward to updates mate.

[Wombat]

And people think the Galactica builders are crazy!!!

[leukirix]

Thanks friends !!!

[Tsophika]

It all starts with an armature. This will be great!

Craig

[LeeS]

Crazy big SS model, please keep us updated, it'll be very impressive!

[JAWS]

Man I hope its not as long to the next update as the last!

[dbhs]

The armature looks great. Having a strong frame inside gives you good piece of mind about the rest of the build.

[leukirix]

Jaws say : "Man I hope its not as long to the next update as the last!"

Yes I hope too !!!

The armature is in iron and it's heavy...

I hope when Executor will be complete, it will not be too heavy...

[Wombat]

Don't worry too much about the weight, you have some bigger issues than that!! Thats gonna be one bloody big build!!

[leukirix]

Like said Craig "It all starts with an armature", so I had to make a special table...



The original Executor was made in aluminium, I've take plasticard 2mm and the result is correct !





A test...




voilà voilà la suite prochainement...

[Tsophika]

Wow!!!

[Wombat]

Taking shape there already, nice work!!

[JAWS]

Sick man!
This will be an epic achievement.
Keep at it Leukirix & keep posting us updates.
We love them!

[kbilly]

Off to a great start. How long is this model??

Can't imagine how much work this model would be

[Mr. Wabac]

The angled table is a brillant idea - ensures that you have the sides at just the right position and provides great support during construction.

The armature you have constructed looks first-rate as well.

A fabulous start for your project.

C'est Manifique !

[Wombat]

I noticed the table and thought the same thing also.. Great idea!!!

[leukirix]

Great thanks guy's

Pictures tomorrow. Yes I made a special table, like ILM. It's better to build correct bottom.

[LeeS]

Well I've never seen a large model being built with an anvil :-)
Great start you're off too...

[leukirix]

Anvil necessary to build Executor ! Absolutely !

[leukirix]

Some pictures...